Cerrato's Not (Just) Incompetent - He's Oblivioius (Offensive Line / Dysfunctional Coaching Staff Related)

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53Fan
11-23-2009, 12:48 PM
If we don't get some studs on o-line I don't think it matters who the QB is. Retain JC and draft some linemen. IF JC doesn't play well next year, draft a QB in 2011 and the linemen will be in their second year. When is the "I don't mind losing for a couple of years if we're building our team to be consistently good for the future" going to happen?

firstdown
11-23-2009, 12:57 PM
Actually, this interview fits perfectly because in Cerrato's mind, he apparently thought our offensive line was in great shape.
I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

Trample the Elderly
11-23-2009, 01:06 PM
I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

I could see parting ways with both of them.

53Fan
11-23-2009, 01:07 PM
I think the FO believes Buges could make anyone a servicable o-linemen. Why waste draft picks on them? I would like to see the line he puts together with some really talented guys myself.

Trample the Elderly
11-23-2009, 01:11 PM
I think the FO believes Buges could make anyone a servicable o-linemen. Why waste draft picks on them? I would like to see the line he puts together with some really talented guys myself.

Perhaps, but that doesn't explain why they didn't get any last year in the draft. Everyone knew we had a glarring need on the O?

redsk1
11-23-2009, 01:20 PM
^This is what baffles me? Would you rather have an excellent QB who is not getting the ball off in time before the rush gets to him or gets sacked or is running for his life or would you be willing to for go the QB position for one yr and build up the OL some so the QB, whoever is behind center, has more time to throw and not getting creamed?

I imagine JC is gone after this season. Snyder is not impressed with JC and JC is not impressed with how he was handled this off season. So I doubt he stays....unless whoever is the new HC seriously talks DS and JC into keeping JC on this team. Which I doubt will happen.

It's now painfully obvious we need young healthy talent on the O-line. Can we atleast build that up so no matter who is QBing or RBing is going to do half decent?

I hear you but let me be the devil's advocate for a sec. It's too early to decide on QB/OL, but just for speculation. Again, i don't know how talented any of the QB's that are coming out and i don't know where we are going to pick either. Let's just say though you have the chance to draft a QB w/ a very high ceiling. Maybe a Rivers, P Manning, Brees, Ben R, etc. I think you may have to jump on that opportunity. Do they all work out? No. Could you imagine us being the team who passed said QB?

Not saying we absolutely have to draft a QB. If ones out there that we're high on, we may want to. Don't totally just nix the QB idea.

SBXVII
11-23-2009, 01:20 PM
firstdown: I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

Please don't make any excuses up for Cerrato. Don't give him any amunition for DS to want to retain him one more year.

Trample: I could see parting ways with both of them.

As much as I have liked Buges in the past....I have to agree now. I think our O-line needs a make over with young healthy talented players with a whole different blocking scheme. Maybe the injury bug will go away.

53Fan
11-23-2009, 01:25 PM
Perhaps, but that doesn't explain why they didn't get any last year in the draft. Everyone knew we had a glarring need on the O?

I agree. But they give Buges crap and expect him to turn it into gold. The result? Look at our line.

SBXVII
11-23-2009, 01:26 PM
I hear you but let me be the devil's advocate for a sec. It's too early to decide on QB/OL, but just for speculation. Again, i don't know how talented any of the QB's that are coming out and i don't know where we are going to pick either. Let's just say though you have the chance to draft a QB w/ a very high ceiling. Maybe a Rivers, P Manning, Brees, Ben R, etc. I think you may have to jump on that opportunity. Do they all work out? No. Could you imagine us being the team who passed said QB?

Not saying we absolutely have to draft a QB. If ones out there that we're high on, we may want to. Don't totally just nix the QB idea.

No I haven't. The glaring need is OL but I know that if we are picking in the top 6 and a top notch QB is available we will pick them. I can't see any HC whoever comes in passing on bringing in "his" QB for "his" system. Levi I think will do well for atleast 3 more years. Heck Jansen is what? 32- 34? Levi still has some time. If not injured.

If QB is the way they will go then 2nd round pick a RT. Pick up a late round RB. Pick up some more OL, maybe a SAM, and maybe another CB. Let all the UFA's know we will conduct an OL camp to see who will be the OL in 2010. Come one come all.

firstdown
11-23-2009, 01:33 PM
firstdown: I have heard Buges several times before this season and last season saying how strong we where along the O line. That leads me to believe that just maybe Buges could be part of the problem and Cerrato not persuing more lines players based of what Buges is telling him.

Please don't make any excuses up for Cerrato. Don't give him any amunition for DS to want to retain him one more year.

Trample: I could see parting ways with both of them.

As much as I have liked Buges in the past....I have to agree now. I think our O-line needs a make over with young healthy talented players with a whole different blocking scheme. Maybe the injury bug will go away.

I don't make excuses for people but I do feel that buges has some role in us not addressing our line problems.

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