Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Saints)

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tryfuhl
12-07-2009, 10:21 AM
It's amazing how some people just can never give Cerrato and the front office credit for anything. Yeah so they tested the waters for Sanchez. So what? A lot of teams did. That's what front offices do. You explore all options. Yes we need to improve in certain areas (namely OL) but we do have several quality young players and the front office should get some credit for that.
Agreed but the draft definitely isn't the total picture. Though I'll say the past couple of years has looked better than the 8 before it.. and that's seemingly when Cerrato had the most control. Our young guys are starting to look pretty decent no doubt. Ignoring the line is still a huge issue though, both of them had been, be we've mostly got the D-Line thing figured out. Hopefully we don't wait too long on the LBs and secondary as these will need filling in the not so distant future.

skinsfan69
12-07-2009, 10:37 AM
I know, I know...everyone's life is over because the Redskins at 3-8 lost to the 11-0 Saints thanks to overpaid athletes and management that don't care about winning nearly as much about the Redskins as the fans do. Woe is all of us. Most Redskins fans predicted a devastating loss going into the game, and just as many were hoping for one a) because they wanted Gregg Williams to stick it to the Redskins and b) every loss is a step closer to kicking Cerrato to the curb.

Before we get to the smack down, let's look at some positives: We're only the second team this year to put 30 points up on the board against Genius Williams (so apologies to every Redskins fan out there that was rooting more so for Williams than the Skins today). Devin Thomas had a beast of a game (indirect props to Cerrato for drafting him and Hixon for coaching him). Davis has done a great job since Cooley went down being Campbell's go-to guy when he needs one. I'm really becoming a big Ganther fan. He's not a starter (meaning 25+ carries/game) but he knows what to do out there and he does it well.

And of course Jason Campbell had another very strong performance (except for that INT)

The Redskins have lost the last three game by seven points...combined. It doesn't get more frustrating than that. But if there's a positive here it's that the last two games have been the best offensive performances we've had since probably last September. And we're doing it with guys like Thomas, Ganther, and Davis leading the way...not Randle El, Portis, and Cooley.

Still, it's time to lay the smack down.

Laron Landry For every spectacular play...he screws up on five basic plays. I'd rather he be consistently solid then occasionally awesome.

The Officiating I'd rather they just be consistent

Shaun Suisham Truthfully, even before the field goal (which I never imagined he'd miss) I was hoping the Redskins would be a little more aggressive in the red zone after the DT facemask. But still, even with the conservative playcalling and the high snap there's no excuse for yet another miss in the clutch like that for Suisham. I don't like kneejerk reactions but this is a recurring situation it seems with Suisham...is it time to cut him and just sign Rayner back for the remainder of the year.

It was a frustrating loss for sure, but most of never even gave them a chance to be in it long enough to even be a frustrating loss.

Landry simply needs to be sat down. The coaches need to put their foot down on this guy. Let him play teams for a while. He's not mature, he undisciplined, he can't tackle and he acts like a freakin 13 year old.

KLHJ2
12-07-2009, 10:40 AM
I know, I know...everyone's life is over because the Redskins at 3-8 lost to the 11-0 Saints thanks to overpaid athletes and management that don't care about winning nearly as much about the Redskins as the fans do. Woe is all of us. Most Redskins fans predicted a devastating loss going into the game, and just as many were hoping for one a) because they wanted Gregg Williams to stick it to the Redskins and b) every loss is a step closer to kicking Cerrato to the curb.

Before we get to the smack down, let's look at some positives: We're only the second team this year to put 30 points up on the board against Genius Williams (so apologies to every Redskins fan out there that was rooting more so for Williams than the Skins today). Devin Thomas had a beast of a game (indirect props to Cerrato for drafting him and Hixon for coaching him). Davis has done a great job since Cooley went down being Campbell's go-to guy when he needs one. I'm really becoming a big Ganther fan. He's not a starter (meaning 25+ carries/game) but he knows what to do out there and he does it well.

And of course Jason Campbell had another very strong performance (except for that INT)

The Redskins have lost the last three game by seven points...combined. It doesn't get more frustrating than that. But if there's a positive here it's that the last two games have been the best offensive performances we've had since probably last September. And we're doing it with guys like Thomas, Ganther, and Davis leading the way...not Randle El, Portis, and Cooley.

Still, it's time to lay the smack down.

Laron Landry For every spectacular play...he screws up on five basic plays. I'd rather he be consistently solid then occasionally awesome.

The Officiating I'd rather they just be consistent

Shaun Suisham Truthfully, even before the field goal (which I never imagined he'd miss) I was hoping the Redskins would be a little more aggressive in the red zone after the DT facemask. But still, even with the conservative playcalling and the high snap there's no excuse for yet another miss in the clutch like that for Suisham. I don't like kneejerk reactions but this is a recurring situation it seems with Suisham...is it time to cut him and just sign Rayner back for the remainder of the year.

It was a frustrating loss for sure, but most of never even gave them a chance to be in it long enough to even be a frustrating loss.


I did, damn it.

MTK
12-07-2009, 10:53 AM
I want to lay some smack on the football itself. What was up with that punt hitting Barnes? I mean of all the shit luck! :doh:

Ruhskins
12-07-2009, 11:01 AM
I want to lay some smack on the football itself. What was up with that punt hitting Barnes? I mean of all the shit luck! :doh:

Or the ball going right into the hands of Meacham after he stripped Moore. In the other 99.9% of the time, that ball falls to the ground.

Speaking of fumbles, Florio makes a good argument about the fumble situations and the officials calling down by contact. I also think that calling a timeout during OT in that situation is pretty much a challenge. Oh well.

Week 13 Morning Aftermath | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/07/week-13-morning-aftermath/)

MTK
12-07-2009, 11:14 AM
It's just funny how the ball always seems to take a good bounce for the other team on a fumble, or it rolls out of bounds.

TheMalcolmConnection
12-07-2009, 11:18 AM
It's just funny how the ball always seems to take a good bounce for the other team on a fumble, or it rolls out of bounds.

I feel the same way. It was almost magic how the ball floated in the air for Meacham (on the INT-fumble).

over the mountain
12-07-2009, 11:29 AM
^^^ yeah the point florio is making has always struck almost everyone as odd. we benefited from this "keep playing after the whistle" rule a few times this year, got brunt by it yesterday.

it just makes no sense to have this rule in which players are supposed to ignore the whistle. so many times a season we see this potential fumble whistled down by contact, 23 players are standing around looking confused and 1 player picks the ball up and runs it all the way to the endzone with no one chasing him.

why have such an important play like a turnover be determined after a whistle blows a play dead? if im a coach, i would tell my players to disregard every whistle when it comes to down by contact plays when it comes to any loose ball that slips out.

take the ARE catch where he was tackled hard, ball came loose then ARE was lying on the ground in pain. the play was close so why couldnt a D player come flying in and blast ARE while hes on the ground and recover the ball? the ref whistled the ball dead and was pointing that ARE was down by contact, but arent players supposed to ignore this whistle? i mean, the ball came loose very quickly?

this rule makes no sense in how rules are defined. this is really a rule against the rules.

calia
12-07-2009, 11:42 AM
Or the ball going right into the hands of Meacham after he stripped Moore. In the other 99.9% of the time, that ball falls to the ground.

Speaking of fumbles, Florio makes a good argument about the fumble situations and the officials calling down by contact. I also think that calling a timeout during OT in that situation is pretty much a challenge. Oh well.

Week 13 Morning Aftermath | ProFootballTalk.com (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/07/week-13-morning-aftermath/)

It was. In OT, coaches do not have challenge flags, and Payton said on the Opening Drive (Sirius radio) this morning that he called the challenge to give the officials time to review the play and see if it was a fumble. AND he got the timeout back when it was ruled a fumble (which surprised him, although it isn't really consequential). But he said he called the timeout knowing that in OT if the officials have a close call to make and time, they will generally review the play.

tdSKINS1
12-07-2009, 11:56 AM
The Saints did have 3 defensive backs out for the game but yes DT had an awesome performance. You could see his confidence building every play he made. I'm very excited for his future here.

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