What if Fred started 16 games?

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mlmdub130
12-23-2009, 07:41 AM
Because they are both expensive and the team has big holes elsewhere. Davis started 14 games? Cooley had 6TDs in a full season. Davis has 6 TDs, has only started a handful of games and still has 2 to go. I don't know why this is even a legit discussion. TEs are not THAT important, let alone 2 of them. Who was the Pats TE when they won 3?

i went back and edited it, but the first two stats were games played and games started.

and i'm pretty sure te's are pretty important, especially in a wco, i beleive thats why this is being discussed

mlmdub130
12-23-2009, 07:43 AM
So you think that Davis' breakout has been a fluke across 6 games? I'd like to call it given a chance. Same with Thomas showing up.. and I still think that Kelly can do the 3 receptions for 30-80yds a game.

i'm not saying it's a fluke but alot of people here are claiming he is the next tony gonzalez, and he might be but i wouldn't say that after a few games in a new system, shit last year it looked like every player on offense was a probowler at the begining of the season

Pocket$ $traight
12-23-2009, 08:49 AM
i'm not saying it's a fluke but alot of people here are claiming he is the next tony gonzalez, and he might be but i wouldn't say that after a few games in a new system, shit last year it looked like every player on offense was a probowler at the begining of the season

He has the physical tools to be like Tony Gonzalez. Of course he is not polished or in an offense good enough to reach that level yet. Gonzalez may be the best pass catching tight end ever.

maroonandblack30
12-23-2009, 09:08 AM
Im a 47 and 86 fan...both are great TEs.... I do think we should trade Cooley for a pick or two, it just makes sense. No team is going to roll with two TE full time, thats just not realistic.

This conversation is another bi product of dumb ass Vinnie's stupidity. The skins didn't NEED Fred Davis!!!! Cooley is a top 10 TE, how many of us would love for the Davis pick to have been a RT?

That being said.....86 > 47 in my opinion.

redsk1
12-23-2009, 09:19 AM
It surprises me that all of a sudden many think we should just trade CC. A guy that's proven, works hard, has a great attitude and has many attributes of a "true redskin." Fred Davis has overly impressed me this year and he's got a big time future too. I'm not ready to give up on CC and i too would be excited w/ both of them on the field.

Zerohero
12-23-2009, 09:39 AM
So if FD started 16 games he would put up... Cooley numbers? ;)

It's funny how quickly we cast guys aside.

Last year Cooley had 1 td, before his injury he wasn't exactly setting the nfl on fire.

I love Cooley but i think part of this team's problems is we have a few fan favorites and it gets in the way of how we run our team. I like Cooley, and only mention the trade if we can get great value.

mredskins
12-23-2009, 09:46 AM
He's more athletic, he has just as good of hands if not better, and he'll break more tackles. However, Cooley is still the consummate Redskin and he's shown some good moves as well. Cooley right now has a very large contract but with a new coach that might not matter nearly as much. 2TE sets should be very interesting and what's to say we shouldn't put one in the slot every now and then? Or even come out of the backfield? Both of those guys can probably do either and to throw that mix up to the D that we're facing could be to an advantage; I don't see it happening but I could see it working.


Doesn't Fred line up in the slot now?

MTK
12-23-2009, 09:48 AM
Last year Cooley had 1 td, before his injury he wasn't exactly setting the nfl on fire.

I love Cooley but i think part of this team's problems is we have a few fan favorites and it gets in the way of how we run our team. I like Cooley, and only mention the trade if we can get great value.

His 1 TD last year was a bit of a fluke, prior to last year he was averaging nearly 7 per year.

And prior to his injury this year he had 29 catches in 6 starts. That's nearly 5 per game, or a pretty healthy 80 catch season pace.

Hey I'm all for looking into trade options too, I just think it's funny how all of a sudden Davis is everyone's hero and Cooley is on the back burner when really, there is no drastic difference in their level of production.

maroonandblack30
12-23-2009, 09:50 AM
So if FD started 16 games he would put up... Cooley numbers? ;)

It's funny how quickly we cast guys aside.

Has nothing to do with casting guys aside....its just good business.... if you can get value for 47 you take the picks. Better to have 1 great TE and one or two other potential starters, than 2 great TEs. Take the emotion of losing a fan favorite out of it and its a no brainer.

BigHairedAristocrat
12-23-2009, 09:57 AM
His 1 TD last year was a bit of a fluke, prior to last year he was averaging nearly 7 per year.

And prior to his injury this year he had 29 catches in 6 starts. That's nearly 5 per game, or a pretty healthy 80 catch season pace.

Hey I'm all for looking into trade options too, I just think it's funny how all of a sudden Davis is everyone's hero and Cooley is on the back burner when really, there is no drastic difference in their level of production.

one would think cooley would garner us more compensation in a trade. his contract is huge; whereas davis is cheap. Cooley has peaked, whereas Davis has tons more upside.

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