Here is a "hidden problem" we haven't addressed yet...

jamf:

Let me tranalste your post for you:


Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... There's nothing here to see, just move along... Bruce Allen is omniscient and will solve each and every problem that comes his way brilliantly - - just the way Joe Gibbs did.

Ooops...

What roster are you looking at that still has Kevin Huntley on it? He's been gone for a while. Since before Zorn coached his first game

And Batiste was cut about a month ago. They kept him on the roster hoping to develop him and it didn't work out

On the one hand you say you never said you didn't like the scouting dept. and on the other you pick on roster moves (such as Huntley) that are irrelevant now (as much as they were when they signed him)

This was just a bad thread to begin with. I agree that scouting is important, I've said it myself before, but your approach was all wrong.

I just read every single post and I have absolutely no idea what I was going to say.

HTTR!

That should satisfy those who want to see a meaningful post.

The Goat:

Bruce Allen's reputation has been made on roster building. So - - the question here is how much of that did HE do personally and independently of his scouts. If he is dependent on top-shelf scouting input to get the results he achieved elsewhere, then I have some worries about how "top-shelf" the scouts are here on whom he will depend...

I thought that there were rumors that Shanny was building his staff somewhere at a Dunkin Doughnuts in Denver. Word has it that GW Bush is his scouting Czar.

dmek25:

They have done lots of things right. They have done more things wrongly than rightly; but they have gotten lots of things right. Want a couple of examples off the top of my head?

1. Drafting Brian Orakpo and realizing that he was coachable enough to allow them to change his position from college to the NFL without making him a less effective player.

2. Signing Andre Carter as a free agent.

3. Signing London Fletcher as a free agent.

4. Signing Shawn Springs as a free agent.

5. Signing Randy Thomas as a free agent.

6. Drafting Chirs Cooley.

7. Finding diamonds in the rough such as Kedrick Golston to fill in when injuries demanded that they play lots of minutes.

8. [Pending] Drafting Jeremy Jarmon with a 3rd round pick. If he were in this year's normal draft, he would go in Round 1 - - of Round 2 at the very least.


Don't ask for my list of things they did wrong. I might not have the time to type that list out...

The Goat:

Bruce Allen's reputation has been made on roster building. So - - the question here is how much of that did HE do personally and independently of his scouts. If he is dependent on top-shelf scouting input to get the results he achieved elsewhere, then I have some worries about how "top-shelf" the scouts are here on whom he will depend...

Is it your take that Allen will not be allowed to assemble a scouting staff of his liking? What good what it do Snyder to bring in a professional football man but then continue to lean on subpar scouts (and not those of Allen)?

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you curmudgeon. There are many cases in the NFL of teams that where bad one year, a few changes later become competitive. The Bengals, Dolphins, Falcons, and the list goes on from there. Remember the Saints where bottom barrel until they signed Drew Brees and hired Payton.
I feel we have a good scouting department. Eric Schafer is known as a genius around the league. He is why we have not fallen into the contract hell that the media have expected us to fall into. Morocco Brown is a very talented evaluator. Don Warren has been with the Redskins both as a legendary player and as a scout. Most of the scouts are relatively new, young and talented. The only guy I would let go is Scott Campbell. Although he has 23 years in front office experience, he was Vinny’s guy and should be let go. Louis Riddick should be brought back to replace Campbell in my opinion. He was a scapegoat for Cerrato’s failures, and Vinny feared someone better than him being on this staff. If they make that minor change Allen will have a strong department backing him. Also there needs to be communication by the pro scouts to players and coaches on both sides pointing out weaknesses of our opponents. Riddick did this for William’s defense, I think it gave them an advantage on game day.
You can not hit a homerun every time in the draft. We pick talented players but we don’t give them game experience to play and develop into stars. Hopefully the new coaching staff will make it a priority to let our youth play. Play the talent vs. playing the marketable name. We didn’t pick Jackson because he is just like Moss. We haven’t made it a priority to draft lineman since 2003 when we drafted Dockery. This is by my belief a direct strategy of Vinny he know skill players, not lineman. When Gibbs came back he put together a good line, but he had a tendency to get veterans rather than youth. That is why we are in the mess we’re in now. Age broke us down. No one expected Samuels to go down, or any of the other injuries for that matter. All this change will give us great results for years to come.

SmootSmack:

Try this link which I find at 2037 EST on 12/30/09:


Washington Redskins Roster | NFL at CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/roster/WAS/washington-redskins)


The roster is alphabetical and you will find Batiste and Huntley on it.

SmootSmack:

Try this link which I find at 2037 EST on 12/30/09:


Washington Redskins Roster | NFL at CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/roster/WAS/washington-redskins)


The roster is alphabetical and you will find Batiste and Huntley on it.

From the Redskins official website, Team - Washington Redskins (http://www.redskins.com/team/)

Both players do not appear. CBS Sportsline team pages are outdated.