saden1
01-01-2010, 11:54 AM
The problems with LaRon Landry are correctable, the problems with these other players not so much. It's ridiculous to call LaRon Landry a bust and even more ridiculous to make him the #1 bust.
dcprosportsreport can do better.
tryfuhl
01-01-2010, 04:24 PM
I though about Rod Gardner, but the problem with Gardner is, he drew the ire of Redskins fans. But in reality, in all his years here, his lowest catch total was 46, far cry from Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.
He also never started less than 14 games for us and we really only had Westbrook for one year and Coles a couple of years later to take some of the balls thrown his way away. So to take people from 2 drafts ago who haven't gotten onto the field that much and to call them busts already is kind of weird. I guess that we're only dealing with the past decade and calling someone a bust drafted past the 3rd doesn't seem right, except in the case of Brooks I suppose.
Still seems like a lot of your picks are personal picks based on who you like and not and count less on field production.
tryfuhl
01-01-2010, 04:30 PM
Kelly and Thomas are still around the same place in my mind. It's true that Kelly has accomplished less, but neither has really accomplished anything. We could look back on 2009 as Fred Davis' breakout year, but if this was the breakout for either Thomas or Kelly, they don't have a career. I would place both of them in the top ten, but not the top five for the same reasons.
Agreed -- I don't think that this will have ended up being their break out year, unless some new coach sends them packing.
Rinehart wouldn't be on my list. Rogers wouldn't be on my list. I really don't think I'd even have Ramsey on the list, although you have to get to ten somehow. If it's outcome-based reasoning here, you'd have to consider putting ST on the list, because we didn't get much value out of that pick. Of course, that's not because he was a bust (and neither was Rogers), it's because after we made a pretty good pick, things completely out of the teams control caused him to be off the team after 3.5 years.
Kind of the way I feel. Too early to call it, we did draft Rogers high for his production, but I don't think that it's deserved of a "bust" label. He's been a solid corner, yeah we know he can't catch.
Taylor Jacobs should be No 1. Rocky McIntosh would definitely be in my top ten, but closer to Kelly and Thomas than the rest of the list. Durant Brooks can represent the late round picks in the top five, I'm okay with that.
I was thinking Rocky too, not that his career is a bust, but just for what he's done for us. He's not a bust in the sense that this will be his last year in the NFL or anything though.
Honestly, Ladell Betts would be in my top five. Second round draft pick who was so valuable that we traded another second rounder along with Champ Bailey to bump him down on the depth chart just two years later. Has had a pretty good career as a backup and part timer since then, but that was a second round selection.
I was expecting to see Betts on there too and thought that the dark horse pick would've been Campbell seeing as what we gave up for him.
tryfuhl
01-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Just read up on what Smoot was talking about, don't know how I missed this before.
Redskins Insider - Morocco Brown (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/morocco-brown.html)
53Fan
01-01-2010, 04:58 PM
Good read tryful. Sounds like he could be a successful GM one day.
mcarey032
01-01-2010, 10:52 PM
This should tell you all need to know!
YouTube - Redskins Anonymous
mcarey032
01-01-2010, 10:55 PM
Just read up on what Smoot was talking about, don't know how I missed this before.
Redskins Insider - Morocco Brown (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/morocco-brown.html)
Had no idea that Melvin Bratton worked for the Redskins. Go figure.
Dirtbag59
01-01-2010, 11:02 PM
I thought that was Brennan?
But hey, I saw JZ admit that JC probably isn't gonna be the Redskins franchise QB. We're crossing over into the honestly plane now. This is good way to start preparing for the new year. Time to hug it out.
Whoa whoa guys!!!! What about Patrick Ramsey along with his defensive counterpart LaVar? Man I just hope the Skins can win a Super Bowl before Friends airs for the last time.
GusFrerotte
01-02-2010, 12:12 AM
Whoa whoa guys!!!! What about Patrick Ramsey along with his defensive counterpart LaVar? Man I just hope the Skins can win a Super Bowl before Friends airs for the last time.
Patrick and Lavar actually play and produced for us. Patrick and that entire QB class of hiss were all flops and didn't live up to the tremendous hype, but he did play and produced half decent results. Lavar was hot or cold, but not a bust. Gardner had some great games for us. Yes he had a lot of drops, but he had some very nice games for us when he was here. Not sure how Taylor Jacobs isn't the hands down winner in this poll. Guy barely played at all. Devin Thomas has already given us more production than Jacobs did. Shoot even Kelly has!!!!!!
GusFrerotte
01-02-2010, 12:14 AM
I thought that was Brennan?
But hey, I saw JZ admit that JC probably isn't gonna be the Redskins franchise QB. We're crossing over into the honestly plane now. This is good way to start preparing for the new year. Time to hug it out.
Are you being sarcastic Dynamite, or did you really see/hear JZ say that in an article or the radio?