Son Of Man
01-05-2010, 10:29 AM
I know that I'll probably get blasted for this...but I like Snyder. I always have liked him as an owner. He has a passion for the job, turns a profit, and pours it back into the team. he's made some HUGE mistakes and takes some deserved criticism, but presses forward. For a guy that bought the team in his mid-30's I kind of expected some growing pains. However, I also see how he is evolving and thinks he has the makings of being an exceptional owner once he puts it all together. I'm cool with the Danny!
SBXVII
01-05-2010, 10:30 AM
I love how people are going to start ripping on Shanahan just because he may in fact be a "Snyder" hire. "But he only won Super Bowls with a quarterback named Elway". Yet Dan Reeves couldn't win a Super Bowl with a quarterback named Elway who was also at the time a young sprout QB.
So Shanahan wins those Super Bowls with a gray-beard Elway at the end of his career. I say Shanahan is a good hire no matter who is the one responsible....Snyder or Allen or both guys.
I love the fact people throw the QB name out there quickly. Let me throw one who is in the Hall of Fame.... Dan Marino. I forgot how many SB's he won.
BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 10:30 AM
I honestly don't think I would want him now. Cowher. Especially after he has told many of media people he would not want the Redskins job or it's front office issues. Then the well dries up and all of a sudden the Redskins look like an oasis. Tampa says they are keeping their HC. Carolina says they are keeping their HC. Houston says they are keeping their HC. Browns hire Holmgren who is a WCO type of guys so most likely they will try to turn the page to a WCO style. Then you have the Bills. No one want to work in Buffalo. It sucks, it's cold, and the owner is cheap. Only then does Cowher decide the Skins look like a good situation and comes begging or calling Allen. I think I too would say have a nice day.
Do you blame him (or anyone) for not wanting to come to the skins with the old FO structure? I don't. The the skins deserved every bad thing that was said about them.
skinsguy
01-05-2010, 10:40 AM
I love the fact people throw the QB name out there quickly. Let me throw one who is in the Hall of Fame.... Dan Marino. I forgot how many SB's he won.
Yep! Exactly my point! Shanahan won with a talented Denver Broncos team. Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe, etc...
BDBohnzie
01-05-2010, 10:41 AM
I am afraid to say everybody is missing the point. The desire to have a GM who is responsible for everything in the organization is being circumvented already. This is Dan's hire (Shanahan) and this will not be called out till the next season or the one after that is another failure. As fans many of us have expressed our views to have the owner step aside but it is clear that this is business as usual at Redskin Park.
Think of it this way. While Snyder's pick is Shanahan, Allen is Shanahan's hire and not Snyder's. Allen's here to help Shanahan run the books and acquire the talent that Shanahan hand picks. Snyder will be able to disassemble his office at Redskin Park and stay out of the day to day. He will also have two guys he trusts running his franchise, and while Snyder will still have some say, ultimately the final decision will lie in Shanahan's hands, and not Allen's or Snyder's.
And for those who don't think Shanahan can get the job done, look at it this way. The message that has echoed from this board for a long time has been to get rid of Cerrato, stop Snyder's meddling and hire football guys to run the franchise. We've got 2 out of 3, and if Allen and Shanahan are successful, you might get the 3rd.
skinsguy
01-05-2010, 10:43 AM
I don't think anyone is saying Shanahan isn't a good hire, but is he the best one? How can we know when he's the only one who we give a real interview to?
You don't ever know if who you hire is the best hire until you see how they perform the job. On paper, some other coach might be the perfect fit but can't translate it into his job. At least we know that Shanahan has been very successful in the NFL and knows how to win. His resume speaks for itself. I'd hire him in a heartbeat.
Redskins8588
01-05-2010, 10:51 AM
Well, actually its a 72 win and 96 loss thing. That's what it boils down to - until those number turns around, Snyder will be lambasted.
With that said, I agree with Paintrain and think "Best post ever" sentiment.
I get it, our win-loss record is shitty, but with the move of hiring Allen and then getting Shanahan, isn't Snyder trying to turn those numbers around? I mean I don't think that Snyder ever brought someone in and thought to himself, "I hope this adds more losses to the team!!" My point was that Snyder is trying, has he made some piss poor choices? Sure, but other than when he brought back Gibbs, this is probably his best move since he owned the team, IMO...
I don't think anyone is saying Shanahan isn't a good hire, but is he the best one? How can we know when he's the only one who we give a real interview to?
Both Shanahan and Cowher have impressive resumes. Who's the best one? That's pretty subjective. Strong cases can be made for both. But it comes down to who is the best fit for the organization. Shanahan just seems to be the better fit for a variety of reasons. If Cowher had a genuine interest here, I'd find it hard to believe he wouldn't be considered.
celts32
01-05-2010, 11:03 AM
It doesn't even matter if Snyder wanted Shanihan. What matters is that we will have compitent people running the football operation. Do you really think that Shanahan & Allen are going to let Snyder tell them what to do? They may let him feel involved but I am very confident that Snyder will not be making any more football decisions as long as Allen & Shanihan are in town. That is what really matters.
BigHairedAristocrat
01-05-2010, 11:05 AM
So whats wrong with interviewing someone else? what's the rush? why lock in on shanahan and ignore all other options? is there something wrong about performing due dilligence?