Shanahan presser thread

I'd put their draft records as definitely hit and miss than 'more poor than good'. If you give a look at the Broncos '06 draft you've got 5 contributors (although Hixon on the Giants) while their '07 draft was a complete waste. The rest of the Broncos drafts are ok, not stellar but not crap either.

As for the Bucs drafts, '05 & '06 were decent, '07 & '08 were poor. Again hit and miss.

I'd put their draft records as definitely hit and miss than 'more poor than good'. If you give a look at the Broncos '06 draft you've got 5 contributors (although Hixon on the Giants) while their '07 draft was a complete waste. The rest of the Broncos drafts are ok, not stellar but not crap either.

As for the Bucs drafts, '05 & '06 were decent, '07 & '08 were poor. Again hit and miss.

Most teams drafts are hit & miss which is why teams try to get as many picks as they can, to give them more chances for hits.

Buges doesn't fit with the zone blocking scheme Shanahan runs. I'm not sure what is delaying his retirement exactly, maybe he's just sticking around and wrapping up loose ends for now, but I don't see Buges coming back.

Because I really don't know the differences.. what is the difference in Shanahan's style of zone blocking vs the one that Bugel used to coach?

I don't see him coming back either though.

Or worse (http://www.leaderpost.com/news/EDITORIAL+Eric+Tillman+Leader+Post+believes+must+l eave+with+Roughriders/2409762/story.html)
oh wow

why is it that all pedos seem to have that thin-lipped tightly drawn mouth look?

Because I really don't know the differences.. what is the difference in Shanahan's style of zone blocking vs the one that Bugel used to coach?

I don't see him coming back either though.

Good question, I'm not sure

oh wow

why is it that all pedos seem to have that thin-lipped tightly drawn mouth look?

And he's actually considered one of the best personnel men in the CFL. He's won three Grey Cups with three different teams as General Manager

Probably isnt the proper thread for this, as it wasnt from the Shanahan presser, but later on that day, Both Allen and Shanahan did interviews on the John Thompson show. The most interesting thing from both was with Allen. Thompson was talking about how many other talented coaches have come here to try and fix things and they hadnt successed. Thompson asked Allen what the difference was between Allen and Shanahan and everyone else. Allen said started with some generic BS... "well its a different time, different situation..." and then he said that 2010 was an "unprecedented year in that it WILL BE UNCAPPED." Unfortunately, Thompson cut him off there to go on a tangent about somethign else, so Allen couldnt elaborate. My thoughts:

- The owners are deliberately going to ensure a new CBA is not reached before the deadline because they WANT an uncapped year. really, the uncapped year only benefits teams as it will allow them to get rid of players with bloated contracts, keep young players an extra year on the cheap, and have an extra tag to prevent players who are free agents from leaving if they so chose. There is ZERO motivation for owners to get a new deal done right now. One will not get done. 2010 will be uncapped.

- The skins are going to take advantage of the uncapped year to the full. Not only will we release and trade players with bloated contracts, but we will be the kings of free agency, signing both expected free agents and those "surprise cuts" who are released by other teams who are doing the same thing as us (releasing guys they dont want anymore).

- As a result, our roster will be old. very very old. We will have assemble a veteran team that has 2, maybe 3 years to reach the superbowl. However, since the year is uncapped, we can structure contracts of these players to be front-heavy, so when a cap is re-established for 2011, we won't have the problems we currently have with guys like Portis, Samuels and Thomas, who's contracts far outweigh their actual value.

Probably isnt the proper thread for this, as it wasnt from the Shanahan presser, but later on that day, Both Allen and Shanahan did interviews on the John Thompson show. The most interesting thing from both was with Allen. Thompson was talking about how many other talented coaches have come here to try and fix things and they hadnt successed. Thompson asked Allen what the difference was between Allen and Shanahan and everyone else. Allen said started with some generic BS... "well its a different time, different situation..." and then he said that 2010 was an "unprecedented year in that it WILL BE UNCAPPED." Unfortunately, Thompson cut him off there to go on a tangent about somethign else, so Allen couldnt elaborate. My thoughts:

- The owners are deliberately going to ensure a new CBA is not reached before the deadline because they WANT an uncapped year. really, the uncapped year only benefits teams as it will allow them to get rid of players with bloated contracts, keep young players an extra year on the cheap, and have an extra tag to prevent players who are free agents from leaving if they so chose. There is ZERO motivation for owners to get a new deal done right now. One will not get done. 2010 will be uncapped.

- The skins are going to take advantage of the uncapped year to the full. Not only will we release and trade players with bloated contracts, but we will be the kings of free agency, signing both expected free agents and those "surprise cuts" who are released by other teams who are doing the same thing as us (releasing guys they dont want anymore).

- As a result, our roster will be old. very very old. We will have assemble a veteran team that has 2, maybe 3 years to reach the superbowl. However, since the year is uncapped, we can structure contracts of these players to be front-heavy, so when a cap is re-established for 2011, we won't have the problems we currently have with guys like Portis, Samuels and Thomas, who's contracts far outweigh their actual value.

1) It is possible that the owners are dragging their feet intentionally. But it is also true that everyone, owners and players, are waiting to see how the American Needle case shakes out. There's no point in designing a new CBA until that case is resolved.

2) The salary cap system is unlikely to return in a new CBA.

Probably isnt the proper thread for this, as it wasnt from the Shanahan presser, but later on that day, Both Allen and Shanahan did interviews on the John Thompson show. The most interesting thing from both was with Allen. Thompson was talking about how many other talented coaches have come here to try and fix things and they hadnt successed. Thompson asked Allen what the difference was between Allen and Shanahan and everyone else. Allen said started with some generic BS... "well its a different time, different situation..." and then he said that 2010 was an "unprecedented year in that it WILL BE UNCAPPED." Unfortunately, Thompson cut him off there to go on a tangent about somethign else, so Allen couldnt elaborate. My thoughts:

- The owners are deliberately going to ensure a new CBA is not reached before the deadline because they WANT an uncapped year. really, the uncapped year only benefits teams as it will allow them to get rid of players with bloated contracts, keep young players an extra year on the cheap, and have an extra tag to prevent players who are free agents from leaving if they so chose. There is ZERO motivation for owners to get a new deal done right now. One will not get done. 2010 will be uncapped.

- The skins are going to take advantage of the uncapped year to the full. Not only will we release and trade players with bloated contracts, but we will be the kings of free agency, signing both expected free agents and those "surprise cuts" who are released by other teams who are doing the same thing as us (releasing guys they dont want anymore).

- As a result, our roster will be old. very very old. We will have assemble a veteran team that has 2, maybe 3 years to reach the superbowl. However, since the year is uncapped, we can structure contracts of these players to be front-heavy, so when a cap is re-established for 2011, we won't have the problems we currently have with guys like Portis, Samuels and Thomas, who's contracts far outweigh their actual value.

The points you've made probably offers some insight to the latest thread about the prospects of Portis returning. Many look for the team to surely dismiss the likes of Samuels (who'll probably just retire on his own) Daniels, Wynn and even Portis among others whose value has diminished. While we will rid ourselves of some older players, others may be added.

Somehow I have a feeling that in this regard, Bruce Allen is much like his father, embracing the old "The future is now" doctrine, he has demonstrated a fondness for older players so it may be worth watching to see how this process plays with al those having in-put in the player selection process.

1) It is possible that the owners are dragging their feet intentionally. But it is also true that everyone, owners and players, are waiting to see how the American Needle case shakes out. There's no point in designing a new CBA until that case is resolved.

I need to read up on this american needle thing. PFT had an article on it but i didnt pay any attention to it. Will go back and take a look at it.

2) The salary cap system is unlikely to return in a new CBA.

I've heard that stated before, but i've never seen a legitimate reason for it. Given that there wont be many (if any) marquee players available in free agency this offseason, i don't think there will be a big spending spree with players getting obscene amounts of money. I certainly don't think there's anyone that will get a contract approaching the deal Haynesworth signed. Thus, there's no reason for the players to really push for a capless CBA. And certainly the owners all want a cap. Sure, a few would prefer no to have a salary floor, but i imagine most of the owners benefit from the system, as they arent "forced" to spend ridiculous amounts of money to remain competitive.

so what am i missing? why is it you feel a cap won't come back?