CBA Progress (or Lack thereof)

I remember this non sense back in the 80's and it really sucked. Watching those replacement games was just awful and having no football was worse. Although I'll never forget that Monday night against Dallas where Gibbs had Tony Robinson running the option and we beat a Dallas team that had many players cross the picket line. Anyone out there remember that? They carried Gibbs off the field....that was great stuff and one of the best coaching jobs I've ever seen. I don't know which side is being greedy but to me the players really don't have the upper hand here. Playing 18 games is the worst idea I've heard and putting in a rookie salary cap is the best idea I've heard.

This is like "the replacements" again in real life....again lol.

I was too young to remember the strike in the 80's....maybe i will finally get to see replacement players again.

Bring it on!

I agree, that a rookie pay scale need to be in place. An unproven player coming out and getting drafted in the first round is like winning the lottery. These guys make way to much money to start. I believe it will make the rookies better in the long run because they know they have to earn their money. Nothing would be given to them.

I am sure more than one of you will agree that just because you were a star in college gives you no right to come into the NFL and start making veteran star player money. This is ridiculous. The Teams who miss with thier top picks become hindered by a failing rookie, because of his contract. Look at the Raiders for example and Jamarcus Russel. The dude is terrible, but he will never have to work a day in his life if he is smart with his cash.

There are so MANY reasons why the NFL needs a rookie pay scale.

If a rookie wage scale is in place before this years draft, it dramatically increases the likelyhood that we'll be able to find a team willing to trade up to get our #4 overall pick.

If a rookie wage scale is in place before this years draft, it dramatically increases the likelyhood that we'll be able to find a team willing to trade up to get our #4 overall pick.
Even if no trade benefits for us, it's long overdue. Crabtree proved it.

Ask the MLB and NHL how well their lockouts went.

Actually don't ask. MLB's revenues now are the highest they have ever been - - and approach those of the NFL. Today, the majority of NHL teams are profitable and that was certainly not the case before the season-long lockout.


The sad reality is that both of those lockouts helped the economics of MLB and the NHL far more than they hurt the economics.


Pissed off fans vent and holler but they don't stay pissed off. They come back and spend their money.

Actually don't ask. MLB's revenues now are the highest they have ever been - - and approach those of the NFL. Today, the majority of NHL teams are profitable and that was certainly not the case before the season-long lockout.


The sad reality is that both of those lockouts helped the economics of MLB and the NHL far more than they hurt the economics.


Pissed off fans vent and holler but they don't stay pissed off. They come back and spend their money.

I don't think the lockout in MLB should be given as much credit as you are giving it. I think raised ticketing and merchandising prices are mainly to credit for the league raising revenue.

Here's some food for thought (doesn't exactly support or refute your point) but it shows how player's salaries affect the league's profit margin. It may not be how most of us thought it would be:
Sporting News - Your expert source for MLB Baseball, NFL Football, NBA Basketball, NHL Hockey, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball and Fantasy Sports scores, blogs, and articles (http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/aajoe7/135024/)

I don't think the lockout in MLB should be given as much credit as you are giving it. I think raised ticketing and merchandising prices are mainly to credit for the league raising revenue.

Here's some food for thought (doesn't exactly support or refute your point) but it shows how player's salaries affect the league's profit margin. It may not be how most of us thought it would be:
Sporting News - Your expert source for MLB Baseball, NFL Football, NBA Basketball, NHL Hockey, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball and Fantasy Sports scores, blogs, and articles (http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/aajoe7/135024/)

If I read this right, the salary cap actually increases player salaries? Interesting.

I remember this non sense back in the 80's and it really sucked. Watching those replacement games was just awful and having no football was worse. Although I'll never forget that Monday night against Dallas where Gibbs had Tony Robinson running the option and we beat a Dallas team that had many players cross the picket line. Anyone out there remember that? They carried Gibbs off the field....that was great stuff and one of the best coaching jobs I've ever seen. I don't know which side is being greedy but to me the players really don't have the upper hand here. Playing 18 games is the worst idea I've heard and putting in a rookie salary cap is the best idea I've heard.

Actually I have very fond memories of the scabs! We had the best owner in the NFL or in all sports Jack Kent Cooke; arguably the best front office mastermind in Bobby Beathard ; and future hall of famer Joe Gibbs! Those were the Golden Days! A small reminder

1987-Scab Game: No team in the NFL had more players cross the picket line during the 1987 strike than the Cowboys, who were 2–0 with their "scab" players entering a game with the Redskins on Monday Night Football. Washington had also won their two games during the strike, but without any veterans. For this game the Cowboys had Danny White, Randy White, Tony Dorsett, Ed Jones among other veterans, but were upset by the replacement Redskins players, 13-7, in a game former Washington head coach Joe Gibbs called "one of my greatest experiences and wins." The Redskins finished 3–0 with the replacements, the strike ending the following week. The Redskins would go on to win Super Bowl XXII later that season. In 2000, Warner Bros. made a movie loosely based on the 1987 Redskins called "The Replacements."

Actually I have very fond memories of the scabs! We had the best owner in the NFL or in all sports Jack Kent Cooke; arguably the best front office mastermind in Bobby Beathard ; and future hall of famer Joe Gibbs! Those were the Golden Days! A small reminder

1987-Scab Game: No team in the NFL had more players cross the picket line during the 1987 strike than the Cowboys, who were 2–0 with their "scab" players entering a game with the Redskins on Monday Night Football. Washington had also won their two games during the strike, but without any veterans. For this game the Cowboys had Danny White, Randy White, Tony Dorsett, Ed Jones among other veterans, but were upset by the replacement Redskins players, 13-7, in a game former Washington head coach Joe Gibbs called "one of my greatest experiences and wins." The Redskins finished 3–0 with the replacements, the strike ending the following week. The Redskins would go on to win Super Bowl XXII later that season. In 2000, Warner Bros. made a movie loosely based on the 1987 Redskins called "The Replacements."

It turned into a dream season for us, no doubt. Great memories! Welcome to The Warpath SUPERMUST12!