Ford Tops in Vehicle Residual Value

I never said the quality reports were the purpose of the thread, they hit the top of the lists a few years ago. This thread is about Ford topping the Residual Value charts.

We get it, you're not a Ford fan.

I had two issues with the first post. The first being the title (which didn't accurately reflect what the article's text said), and the second being this sentence: "After surpassing Toyota in quality (according to JD Power), now they beat Toyota in another key category:". You didn't, and still don't have any evidence to back up that statement.

Who said I'm not a Ford fan? Did you not read my previous posts? I'm fairly brand agnostic (Chevy, Honda, Toyota, and Chrysler all represented in my garage). Give me the $60k for an F450, and I'll gladly add it to my stable. :) I also made a strong case for a Ford Fusion when Daseal was looking to buy a new car a few months ago.

I'll end with this quote from my first post...
Ford has earned the credit being heaped on them. Bashing other companies in the name of Ford's success, is not warranted, IMO, though.

I always wondered what initial quality meant. Apparently from my research it is just how well the car performs in it's first three months, pffff...who cares. I want to know if it will least 10 years and 200k miles if it can do that the first three months should be a cake walk.

Some of these awards are just marketing tools.

Interesting read:

Ford Surpasses Honda In Initial Quality and Ties Toyota (The Torque Report) (http://www.thetorquereport.com/2009/04/ford_surpasses_honda_in_initia.html)

Yep, it's a reliability survey that accounts for the first 90 days of ownership.

I own a Ford Van. It isn't fuel savvy but I don't care. Old ladies have a knack for running into me. Ford has a long track record of having a serious beef with the Gov going back to Henry Ford. So that's cool in my book. I've had a Hundai before and it was a good vehicle as well. Automobiles in general these days will last a long time if you keep up with them. I usually jack mine up with K&N filers, top off the line fluids, and check on them constantly. I wish Ford would manufacture more autos in the US. If Congress put some tariffs on autos not made in the US maybe . . . Perhaps the UAW would stop trying to kill the golden goose too?

I own a Ford Van. It isn't fuel savvy but I don't care. Old ladies have a knack for running into me. Ford has a long track record of having a serious beef with the Gov going back to Henry Ford. So that's cool in my book. I've had a Hundai before and it was a good vehicle as well. Automobiles in general these days will last a long time if you keep up with them. I usually jack mine up with K&N filers, top off the line fluids, and check on them constantly. I wish Ford would manufacture more autos in the US. If Congress put some tariffs on autos not made in the US maybe . . . Perhaps the UAW would stop trying to kill the golden goose too?
i should have figured you would think this.
and by the way....
Toyota Motorhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing_11pxw.gif (http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1126617#) Sales U.S.A. said today that it would recall 2.3 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals, in addition to the 4.2 million Toyota (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Toyota.aspx) and Lexus (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Lexus.aspx) vehicles already being recalled.
(http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1126617)

i should have figured you would think this.
and by the way....
Toyota Motorhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing_11pxw.gif (http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1126617#) Sales U.S.A. said today that it would recall 2.3 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals, in addition to the 4.2 million Toyota (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Toyota.aspx) and Lexus (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Lexus.aspx) vehicles already being recalled.
(http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1126617)

I'm not saying all trade unions are bad. Many of my relatives are union. I'm just saying some of the UAW's policies make the companies they work for uncompetitive in the US and Canada.

remember that there was always 2 sides sitting at the table when negotiating. and i agree with the tariff on non U.S vehicles

remember that there was always 2 sides sitting at the table when negotiating. and i agree with the tariff on non U.S vehicles

By all means, management were fools for signing off on some of these contracts. The end result is still the same. I'm for tariffs on vehicles manufactured outside the US. If it's a Toyota coming out of Alabama, I'm cool with that. That's an American family putting bread on their table.

Does the UAW hire illegals? I know the Carpenter and Joiners do in CA. The local Electric 666 runs them off every job they get from what I hear.

I keep a car so long residual value means nothing in my book. I hate car payments.

Yes they have. I've owned my Ford for 9 years now, but have no major problems (just alternator and leaky water pump, common and easy repairs), so I haven't had a reason to replace it. Probably will in the next couple of years, but they've been doing great for a while now. Toyota has been on a bit of a downslide with quality (Comsumer Reports was exposed to be re-using old quality surveys on Toyotas for a few years while newer models were having more issues).

It's amazing how people have the stereotypes in their minds and can't be changed...Toyotas and Hondas = Good, Fords = Bad!

The best part about Ford's story, they refuse to take Government handouts/bailouts...they're doing it all on their own.


Don't you have a Fusion, Matty? Love those cars.

My first car was a 1989 Ford Thunderbird SC, pretty decent car. Since then i have had a Mercury Topaz (bad transmission) and a Exporer (bad engine, transmission and something else that was going to cost 1k+ to fix). All my Explorer problems happend at different times. I finally broke down and bought a Honda.

Ford has made major strides, but years of a producing a crappy and inferior product is going to take a while to fix.

Think of McDonalds everything they had sucked 5 years ago. Now the menu is vastly improved, restaurant quality is near the top in their industry, and their core products are better because they are made or anticipated to order (they dont just sit under a heat lamp any more). But i think a lot of people here would never go to a McDonalds just because of their old perception of the place.

i should have figured you would think this.
and by the way....
Toyota Motorhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing_11pxw.gif (http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1126617#) Sales U.S.A. said today that it would recall 2.3 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals, in addition to the 4.2 million Toyota (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Toyota.aspx) and Lexus (http://autos.msn.com/browse/Lexus.aspx) vehicles already being recalled.
(http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1126617)
What does a recall have to do with a union? Remember the pintos also known as the rolling bombs or the chevy truck with the side sadle gas tanks which also blew up when in an accident. My Ford has had 3 recalls but I never took it in. If I'm correct those recalls you posted are to just add something to hold down the drivers floor mat. I only own US cars and just making a point.