"Don't embarass the team" rule

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VTSkins897
10-31-2004, 05:47 PM
the way i see it the season seems all but lost... so why not get ramsey his reps now instead of stinking it up with brunell at Q. and ppl who are all about gibbs. know that the only reason it's even close is bc we have g. williams as DC, not JG. spurrier would have had the same record or better with this D. and gibbs would be winless with g. edwards. congrats to GW and the D (even with all the injuries) and pray that the O clicks soon.

illdefined
10-31-2004, 06:07 PM
Actually, I think Ramsey could outperform Brunell given the same offensive line and scheme. Yes he was pressured a lot last year under Spurrier's all Run and no Gun offense last year because he had little to no protection. Gibbs is known for protecting the QB and I think Ramsey really could shine in a Gibbs offense.

Brunell got sacked four times today. with 'max protect' on all the TEs in blocking. we still aint gettting the time, and in that case, Brunell has a better chance at success. just wish he was 100x more accurate.

LongTimeSkinsFan
10-31-2004, 06:16 PM
Brunell got sacked four times today. with 'max protect' on all the TEs in blocking. we still aint gettting the time, and in that case, Brunell has a better chance at success. just wish he was 100x more accurate.

Yes he was sacked four times today, but as I remembered at least two of those sacks were 'coverage' sacks where Brunell had time with no one open and one sack for sure was on a blitz with Portis missing a block. For what he's getting paid, Brunell is underperforming.

offiss
10-31-2004, 06:17 PM
RF, you're smoking man. listen, Gibbs is transitioning to the new NFL, sure, and its gonna take time, he won ALOT his way for many years, so he's got to relearn. but he has all the coaching tools to do so successfully.

as for your calls for Ramsey, well, as inaccurate as Brunell is (boy, is he) i think Ramsey would get sacked SO much more and never get a chance to throw those lasers he's known for.

the modern game calls for a quick QB, on his feet and reading the defense (ie blitzes). unfortunately, Ramsey is neither. THATS why Gibbs sticks to Brunell. so whats worse, inaccurate but non-INT passes or sacks?


I have to say ill. that is an inaccurate analisis!

illdefined
10-31-2004, 06:34 PM
all i see is Brunell under pressure. yeah he sucks as a passer, but how do you guys really expect Ramsey to escape pressure better than Brunell and even get a CHANCE to pass?

ideally, our OLine and TE's held up better and we had Ramsey out there. but thats just NOT the case.

MTK
10-31-2004, 06:36 PM
We can make a switch but I'm not convinced it's going to make much of a difference. We just have too many other issues, it's not all on Brunell, but he's the convenient scapegoat.

SUNRA
10-31-2004, 07:00 PM
We can make a switch but I'm not convinced it's going to make much of a difference. We just have too many other issues, it's not all on Brunell, but he's the convenient scapegoat.

10 penalties for 82 yards is something I thought we solved. Derrick Dockery has to be one of the most underserving lineman to start for this team. He still makes the same mistakes over and over.

SkinsRock
11-01-2004, 11:22 AM
We can make a switch but I'm not convinced it's going to make much of a difference. We just have too many other issues, it's not all on Brunell, but he's the convenient scapegoat.

Understood that it's not all Brunell, but sometimes it just takes a change to spark the rest of the team and make them perform better. Who knows if it will, but it certainly couldn't hurt to give it a shot at this point. But Gibbs won't do it. I hate to say it, but I was actually hoping Brunell would have gotten injured so Gibbs would have to put Ramsey in there....nothing real bad, but just enough to give Patrick 1-2 starts to see what he could do...
And as for the protection, yeah it was lacking, but it was still nothing near what it was last year.

joehardee
11-01-2004, 02:48 PM
with the line blocking like that , 4 sacks- mobile be for real.

That Guy
11-01-2004, 08:13 PM
so whats worse, inaccurate but non-INT passes or sacks? umm... 2 ints and 4 sacks, check the facts, your wrong.

All this crap about ramsey, INT-King are stupid, since brunell's been here his TD/TO ratio is worse than ramsey's, and he's had a better scheme (in most people's eyes)... sailing slow balls high isn't preventing INTs, its preventing completions.

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