State of the Union (1/27/10)

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GMScud
01-27-2010, 11:21 PM
Facts are a damn nuisance when they are not on your side. He took responsibility for the trillion he added to the deficit, you want him to take the blame for the shitty budget left to him aswell? GTFOOH.

Didn't he quadruple national debt?

IMO the whole thing was partisan, defensive, and repetitive - except for the spending freeze (which won't take effect for another year so he can rack up more exponential debt by expanding government even further). I think he's out of touch with his own policies in some areas.

Trample the Elderly
01-27-2010, 11:23 PM
"Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections," Obama said

Obama lied on national television. McCain / Feingold isn't that old. They may be but the law isn't.

I don't remember the Democrats complaining when the Chinese nationals (aka the ChiComs) were giving campaign money to the Clintons and Gore.

I thought I hated Bush, then we got Clinton. I thought no one could screw up bigger than Clinton, then we got Dumb-ass the younger. I thought no one, absolutely no one could be a bigger screw up than W. Now we have this guy, a guy who gets up and lies on national television.

It's been a Democrat Congress since 2006. Yeah remember, dumb-ass W destroyed the Republican party like Mao-bama is destroying the Democrat party. Democrats can't wash their hands of this.

GMScud
01-27-2010, 11:24 PM
Alito shaking his head and saying "that's not true" was my second fav moment. It's a place the needed to be gone. As for the bypassing the Senate, can you blame him? Six Republicans co-sponsored the comission bill and then voted against. There is no money in reducing the deficit.

A favorite moment? So either Alito or Obama is full of shit. Either way that's not good for America. The executive branch talking smack to the judicial on the biggest possible stage is a BAD thing.

GMScud
01-27-2010, 11:26 PM
Elections have consequences, I don't know how anyone can get upset at Obama for pursuing the agenda he believes in. Disagree with it, fine, but don't act surprised that he's not changing his message at the first sign of trouble.

I'm not suggesting he hit the reset button. But not backing down at all off your initial agenda after a very poor first year is indicative of the arrogance of this administration. (cough *Rahm Emanuel* cough)

saden1
01-27-2010, 11:26 PM
Didn't he quadruple national debt?

IMO the whole thing was partisan, defensive, and repetitive - except for the spending freeze (which won't take effect for another year so he can rack up more exponential debt by expanding government even further). I think he's out of touch with his own policies in some areas.

Since Schneed10 is a budget expert I would love to hear him address your "didn't he quadruple national debt" question.

saden1
01-27-2010, 11:35 PM
A favorite moment? So either Alito or Obama is full of shit. Either way that's not good for America. The executive branch talking smack to the judicial on the biggest possible stage is a BAD thing.

They disagree all the time through amicus briefs and through the media, I don't see why politely disagreeing with the ruling "on the biggest possible stage" is a bad thing.

saden1
01-27-2010, 11:38 PM
I'm not suggesting he hit the reset button. But not backing down at all off your initial agenda after a very poor first year is indicative of the arrogance of this administration. (cough *Rahm Emanuel* cough)


Poor first year? That is a matter of opinion isn't it? I mean his approval ratings (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html) is down from it's high but it still in the black.

GMScud
01-27-2010, 11:44 PM
They disagree all the time through amicus briefs and through the media, I don't see why politely disagreeing with the ruling "on the biggest possible stage" is a bad thing.

Yeah, but how often does the POTUS call out the Supreme Court during the State of the Union? And did he even have his facts straight when he did so? Too divisive for the the SOTU. He should have kept such rhetoric to said amicus briefs.

saden1
01-27-2010, 11:49 PM
Yeah, but how often does the POTUS call out the Supreme Court during the State of the Union? And did he even have his facts straight when he did so? Too divisive for the the SOTU. He should have kept such rhetoric to said amicus briefs.

I assure you it happens more often than you think, only this time it's Obama doing it. I acutally remember Bush doing something similar though I can't remember when and what it was about (I'll try to look for it).

Trample the Elderly
01-28-2010, 12:04 AM
I assure you it happens more often than you think, only this time it's Obama doing it. I acutally remember Bush doing something similar though I can't remember when and what it was about (I'll try to look for it).

That alone should've let you know it was a dumb ass move.

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