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This is a ridiculouc thread!!!! We have been in every game so far this year right to the end. The last 12 years this was not the case. With a few years in one system I would imagine you will start to see a turnaround. Was there one game we wern't totally into up untill the end? Can you say this about past years? This is where Gibbs makes a difference. If not Gibbs who would you replace him with? We seem to have now left the Colledge boys behind, so that might leave someone in the pro ranks. Slim picking boys so you should hope Gibbs remains for at least the 5 years he signed up for otherwise we are in serious trouble. Please explode this thread!!!!
I'm not sure the poll is very objective here so I went with other.
I'll stick by Gibbs through thick and thin. I'd much rather be in this situation with Gibbs than Spurrier. Even though times are tough, I don't have that same sinking feeling that I had last year. The record might say 2-5, but the team is still battling and sticking together. Last year it seemed the team rolled over and gave up. That to me is a direct reflection of the Head Coach.
Gibbs will get this thing worked out, he's too smart and too determined not too. He's going to put in the time and effort to get things fixed. Nobody wants to bring DC a winner more than Gibbs. He didn't have to come back to the game, he's a Hall of Famer, 3 Super Bowl rings and nothing else to prove. But he did come back and part of the reason was he was getting sick of seeing the Redskins get kicked around. And now he has to deal with boo's at home calling for Ramsey and thousands of assistant coaches on the internet who somehow have more knowledge of the game than he does.
In this day and age of 'what have you done for me lately' I guess 3 Championships quickly loses it's luster, but I think we owe him our patience. As I pointed out in another thread Dick Vermiel has gone through very similar circumstances, he back back after a long layoff, his teams struggled in their first two seasons, but patience, dedication and hard work paid off.
If anybody wants off the Gibbs bandwagon fine, but don't come crawling back once he gets things turned around.
SkinsRock 11-01-2004, 03:16 PM People have pointed out that last year under Spurrier, the Skins whad a better record at this point. True, but where did they go from there? Straight down! The point is, while it is frustrating as hell being 2-5, it feels different than if Spurrier, or anyone else for that matter, was the head coach. With Gibbs, combined with the way we have lost those 5 games (with the D keeping them close to the end), there is much less of a sense of panic. Odds are that he WILL somehow, some way get the ship turned around, and while in all likelyhood the Skins probably won't make the playoffs, there is a good chance that the season will end on an upswing....which will set the stage for the Skins being a formidable team next season. If you ask me, that's a hell of a lot better than starting 3-1, only to end up 5-11. IN GIBBS WE TRUST.
RedskinRat 11-01-2004, 03:18 PM Matt, how long should we be happy to see Brunell at QB?
The only thing that keeping Brunell at QB will achieve is a high draft pick.
Ramsey is the future and it won't be any worse for him being starter.
ZackMills 11-01-2004, 03:22 PM two words:
Gibbs sucks
SmootSmack 11-01-2004, 03:30 PM I went with Gibbs is Partly to Blame, Brunell is Partly to Blame. I mean we're talking about the starting QB and head coach. I would think for any team the head coach and starting QB would be at least partly responsible for the success, or lack thereof, of the team
Now keep in mind that saying Gibbs is partly to blame doesn't mean Gibbs should be fired, Gibbs sucks, or anything like that. It just means that he should be held at least partly accountable for the 5 losses. And one of the best things about Gibbs is that he knows it too and he's not going to say "Hey I've got three rings, it's not my fault" He's going to assume responsibility and lead this team back to where it belongs.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-01-2004, 03:30 PM This is a ridiculouc thread!!!! We have been in every game so far this year right to the end. The last 12 years this was not the case. With a few years in one system I would imagine you will start to see a turnaround. Was there one game we wern't totally into up untill the end? Can you say this about past years? This is where Gibbs makes a difference. If not Gibbs who would you replace him with? We seem to have now left the Colledge boys behind, so that might leave someone in the pro ranks. Slim picking boys so you should hope Gibbs remains for at least the 5 years he signed up for otherwise we are in serious trouble. Please explode this thread!!!!
Our defense has kept it close, our offense has not. Gibbs has said that he's let Williams coach the defense and the offense is "his thing." Considering that our defense is ranked #1 and our offense is ranked 26th, how is it that Gibbs has been doing his job?
LadyT 11-01-2004, 03:31 PM To those who have posted that the most likely reason that Gibbs isn't playing Ramsey is because he doesn't think Ramsey can get the job done - I say baloney.
Remember, it was Gibbs who reassured Ramsey that he will play a major part on this team.
If, as you speculate, he doesn't think Ramsey is the man, why would he say otherwise in the pre-season?
Conversely, if Gibbs meant what he said about Ramsey, when does he put his money where his mouth is and let Ramsey play?
Gibbs can't have it both ways - one the one hand he's trying to placate and reassure Ramsey, while on the other hand he's not letting him play when the current QB is stinking up the joint. At some point, what Gibbs says has to match what he does and who he chooses to start.
And to those of you who say we shouldn't criticize because we don't see what goes on in practice and we can't know what Gibbs is thinking - I say that, frankly, I don't care what goes on in practice nor what is in Gibbs' head. I only care about what I see during game time. That is all that counts - not what happens in practice. And what we have all been seeing in every game from the start of this season is poor play by Brunell. Is he alone in playing poorly on offense? No. But he does stand alone in consistently, game in and game out, playing poorly.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-01-2004, 03:39 PM And now he has to deal with boo's at home calling for Ramsey and thousands of assistant coaches on the internet who somehow have more knowledge of the game than he does.
If anybody wants off the Gibbs bandwagon fine, but don't come crawling back once he gets things turned around.
1. Are you saying he shouldn't have to deal with calls for Ramsey?
2. Are you saying people calling for Ramsey shouldn't be because we don't have more football knowledge than Gibbs?
3. Just because we attack Gibbs' decision to keep Brunell in and blame him for losses doesn't mean that we can't enjoy a few wins.
4. I'm as entitled to my opinion as anyone else, whether that means I'm supporting or attacking Gibbs.
5. I seem to recall you said you thought we should bench Brunell if we didn't win this week. Have you changed your mind or are you arguing with Gibbs who has superior football knowledge.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-01-2004, 03:42 PM Everyone, KEEP IT RESPECTFUL.
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