93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins

I wouldn't say he was barely touched like he's not tough. Sometimes it's where you get hit that matters. You ever stub your little toe?

Or get a paper cut. Hurts like a mofo!

I really hope Smootsmack is wrong about that Spiller to Pats, and us getting McCoy. If you all are so worried about Bradfords shoulder, then I'd be pissing my pants every play McCoy went to drop back, the guy was barely touched in the biggest game of his career and he quiet over a little bump, Bradford got slammed on his shoulder and played a few games later and got slammed on it again, then he gave up.

No offense but your argument here makes no sense. So you're saying that it is ok to take a QB with a shoulder injury (Bradford) at #4, but it is not ok to take McCoy (also with a shoulder injury) later in the first round (or maybe second?) with additional picks (that would come from a trade down with the Pats)?

I would say in these two scenarios, the latter one would be less of a risk if a trade down results in results in additional picks. That being said, picking both QBs bring in their individual riskst...Bradford barely played his last season and injured that shoulder twice, while McCoy's injury was the most recent one.

I personally am not putting that much stock into McCoy to the Redskins talk. On the surface it makes sense because McCoy is a proven winner, he's accurate, and he's from Texas (Kyle is still close with the guys there).

But I think if we don't take Bradford or Clausen at #4 we won't be taking a QB until around Round 4 or 5. And I don't think McCoy will be there then.I think, if we're going to go after McCoy, we will end up trading back up into the first to get him. And only because our scouting evaluations suggest he is a better scheme fit than either Bradford or Clausen.

I agree with you that if we're satisfied not taking a QB in the first round, we will probably not take one until the middle of the draft.

No offense but your argument here makes no sense. So you're saying that it is ok to take a QB with a shoulder injury (Bradford) at #4, but it is not ok to take McCoy (also with a shoulder injury) later in the first round (or maybe second?) with additional picks (that would come from a trade down with the Pats)?

I would say in these two scenarios, the latter one would be less of a risk if a trade down results in results in additional picks. That being said, picking both QBs bring in their individual riskst...Bradford barely played his last season and injured that shoulder twice, while McCoy's injury was the most recent one.

No I'm saying in terms of whose more fragile, Bradford may have messed up his shoulder, but his injury was a lot more understandable as to how he got hurt and why he wasn't playing. McCoy is 190lbs or around that and barely has pushed and he wouldn't play the rest of the national championship game. I don't buy that people said he couldn't play because the trainers wouldn't let him on the field, if he wanted to play so badly, then he could of lied to them and told them he was fine. I'm saying Bradford or no McCoy, is what I'm saying.

So SS, you don't think a QB such as Pike in the 2nd is a possibility?At the top of the second, Pike seems like a huge reach. He's a good, solid quarterback prospect with tools, and there's a lot to like about him, but he seems to profile as an NFL backup. I see a little bit of Tom Brady there, but for every instance that Brady got lucky enough to play early and develop into one of the better quarterbacks in NFL history (fulfilling all his potential), there were thirty or forty other possible routes that could have led to Brady being a career backup, or a worthless starter.

Pike could be an all-time great, I think, but I would not just take him in the second and hope nothing goes wrong on his development. He's nowhere near a finished product for a 23 year old, and that means career backup in about 85% of QB prospects.

No I'm saying in terms of whose more fragile, Bradford may have messed up his shoulder, but his injury was a lot more understandable as to how he got hurt and why he wasn't playing. McCoy is 190lbs or around that and barely has pushed and he wouldn't play the rest of the national championship game. I don't buy that people said he couldn't play because the trainers wouldn't let him on the field, if he wanted to play so badly, then he could of lied to them and told them he was fine. I'm saying Bradford or no McCoy, is what I'm saying.

I think it's a bit futile to make an argument due to injury against McCoy and dismiss Bradford's injury. Regardless, to me picking up QBs with shoulder injuries in their last year is not a good idea. I rather use our resources in other areas of need and pick up a mid-round QB to develop.

Redskins Insider - Malcolm Kelly gives his thoughts on Sam Bradford (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/malcolm-kelly-gives-his-though.html#more)

Malcolm Kelly's take on us getting Sam Bradford.

So SS, you don't think a QB such as Pike in the 2nd is a possibility?

I mean I guess it is. But my own somewhat educated guess say OT and/or LB is more likely in the 2nd round (and possibly 3rd if we get one). With QB and RB being in the 1st and 4th, or vice-versa.

I'll have more concrete info after the combine I'm sure. Last year it was pretty apparent form the start that Cushing, Rey Rey, and Orakpo were at the top of their list. This year it's not as clear.

If you remember Cambell got killed last year. It doesn't matter who you put back there until you repair the porus O-line. I would like us to take OT Russell Okung with the first round pick and then you Zac Robinson from OSU in a later round. The rest of the draft we need big uglys.

According to ESPN the Rams are developing a growing interest in Sam Bradford. With the Rams recently being sold to Shahid Kahn I'm positive he's salivating for a franchise QB. Out of the last 5 years, the Rams have drafted 2-O-lineman, and 2 DE's. And the team has only gotten worse. So I don't think Suh will be their first pick. So it would make sense for them to draft a franchise QB with their coveted first pick. I hope they draft Bradford, that means we'll get JC, don't get it confused with Jason Campbell.