More Waisted Tax Money 2010 Census

i know i'm the last one that should point out spelling and grammar errors but...

they have been pushing the ads on tv like crazy around northern va and it's not like the will ever get a true number on the people in the metro area because half the people in northern va are scared of getting deported. if they ever want a real number they should figure out a way to get people to become legal citizens

If you were truly a grammar expert, you would have also noticed that "tryed" should be "tried". You also missed the sarcasm of his post.

:goodjob:

prelim mailings are done to increase sendback rate, it works

it's also to open your eyes up to potential scams.. so if someone in a month comes by.. or you've already done something, etc

If you were truly a grammar expert, you would have also noticed that "tryed" should be "tried". You also missed the sarcasm of his post.

:goodjob:

If you were truly a language expert you'd know that that would be spelling and not grammar. ;)

prelim mailings are done to increase sendback rate, it works

it's also to open your eyes up to potential scams.. so if someone in a month comes by.. or you've already done something, etc

Not so sure about stopping scams but I guess next time I do a mailing I'll send a mailing prior telling the customer I will be doing a mailing. Then I will send the mailing refering to the prior mailing and if I do not get a response I will send a reminder mailing about the other two mailings. Before any of the mailings go out I will send an employee to get their GPS location and confirm their location. Then if none of this works I will send another employee out to get the survey done in person which could have been done by the guy who went to get their GPS location before any mailing went out. Boy just wait until we get federal health care. I guess I'll have to mail them a claim notice prior to myself getting injured or sick.

Not so sure about stopping scams but I guess next time I do a mailing I'll send a mailing prior telling the customer I will be doing a mailing. Then I will send the mailing refering to the prior mailing and if I do not get a response I will send a reminder mailing about the other two mailings. Before any of the mailings go out I will send an employee to get their GPS location and confirm their location. Then if none of this works I will send another employee out to get the survey done in person which could have been done by the guy who went to get their GPS location before any mailing went out. Boy just wait until we get federal health care. I guess I'll have to mail them a claim notice prior to myself getting injured or sick.

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Not so sure about stopping scams but I guess next time I do a mailing I'll send a mailing prior telling the customer I will be doing a mailing. Then I will send the mailing refering to the prior mailing and if I do not get a response I will send a reminder mailing about the other two mailings. Before any of the mailings go out I will send an employee to get their GPS location and confirm their location. Then if none of this works I will send another employee out to get the survey done in person which could have been done by the guy who went to get their GPS location before any mailing went out. Boy just wait until we get federal health care. I guess I'll have to mail them a claim notice prior to myself getting injured or sick.

That could be cost effective for you but you got to figure out if that's true for you. Let's do some rough math to figure out whether it's worth it for taxpayers to pay for sending out these notification letters.

Given:
1. The government saves 85 million (http://2010.census.gov/news/releases/operations/2010-census-ad-campaign-positioned-to-save-taxpayers-millions-helping-boost-mail-back-participation.html) for every 1 percent of forms returned.
2. The current estimate (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:qrDGHO1wIhIJ:www.census.gov/prod/1/pop/p25-1129.pdf+number+of+houses+in+the+united+states&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgfO6vop6_4-L_xcXOoj6A3-PZ_570gTmADQY070UhCkLL6VYI_xVdKhaQVOL2Z3LzaNa87Wek riEGek0swSW19gDmEKH0ZmlpXsJUJ7wsz-AqkXnVxzjjrqnPMnNXXWU_smnvN&sig=AHIEtbRoQqTfe8W_V104xaG-4toXsP8pcw) of the number of households in the united states is 115 million which implies 115 million notification letters will initially be sent out (assuming since we really don't know if everyone was sent a notification letter).
3. The USPO bulk mail rate (http://dbcalc.usps.com/CalculatorSetPage.aspx) is $0.233 per mail (this number is conservative).

If you do the math it costs the government $26,795,000 (115 million * 0.233) to send these notification letters. At cost of ~27 million and the potential of saving 510 million to 1.02 billion sending these notifications is a no brainer even if you don't take into consideration printing cost. Hell, if sending these notification gets 0.5% more people to respond you should send them out!

Nice, actually kicked the numbers out. I love when people think that they're smarter based on opinion vs those who are actually paid to project these things.

That could be cost effective for you but you got to figure out if that's true for you. Let's do some rough math to figure out whether it's worth it for taxpayers to pay for sending out these notification letters.

Given:
1. The government saves 85 million (http://2010.census.gov/news/releases/operations/2010-census-ad-campaign-positioned-to-save-taxpayers-millions-helping-boost-mail-back-participation.html) for every 1 percent of forms returned.
2. The current estimate (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:qrDGHO1wIhIJ:www.census.gov/prod/1/pop/p25-1129.pdf+number+of+houses+in+the+united+states&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgfO6vop6_4-L_xcXOoj6A3-PZ_570gTmADQY070UhCkLL6VYI_xVdKhaQVOL2Z3LzaNa87Wek riEGek0swSW19gDmEKH0ZmlpXsJUJ7wsz-AqkXnVxzjjrqnPMnNXXWU_smnvN&sig=AHIEtbRoQqTfe8W_V104xaG-4toXsP8pcw) of the number of households in the united states is 115 million which implies 115 million notification letters will initially be sent out (assuming since we really don't know everyone was sent a notification letter).
3. The USPO bulk mail rate (http://dbcalc.usps.com/CalculatorSetPage.aspx) is $0.233 per mail (this is number is conservative).

If you do the math it costs the government $26,795,000 (115 million * 0.233) to send these notification letters. At cost of ~27 million and the potential of saving 510 million to 1.02 billion sending these notifications is a no brainer even if you don't take into consideration printing cost. Hell, if sending these notification gets 0.5% more people to respond you should send them out!

So there's a method to the madness... amazing

BS and if Bush had done it you would have hated it. The census gets free advert through the schools, and public health organizations. Glad you support the initiatives, but I wouldn't have expected otherwise.



I don't believe you know me well enough to know that I would have hated it if Bush had done it.
There is no such thing as free advertising. I'm confidant you're aware of this.
You don't address the issue of cost effectiveness of the ad. You look at the 2.4 million price tag like a Neanderthal would and pound your chess while screaming "oga-buga" with glee and ignorance.


Check this out, yeah, according Nielson the SB had 105.97 million viewers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4897094). At 2.5 million price tag (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/03/taxpayers-fork-million-single-census-ad-super-bowl/) the cost of the ad per viewer is ~0.024 cents. Bang!

So there's a method to the madness... amazing

It is only madness if you don't understand...to understand is to ask why. Unfortnatly many folks seem content with their madness.