Mcnabb to Washington?

All this talk of McNabb and T.O. possibly becoming Redskins makes me :vomit:.
No kidding , lets say no to iggles and cowturds ever wearing the B&G !!!

I would LOVE McNabb on this team. He could easily play another 4-5 seasons and still be pretty damn good. You've got to be high to not like this potential move. Doubt it will happen, but I would gladly give up a 2nd rounder for him.

Okung with #4, McNabb for our 2nd rounder = no brainer.

I'm siding with Pocket$ on this one. Stats aside, McNabb has done more with similar talent and, in some cases, less talent than Jason Campbell has over the course of their respective careers. There's no disputing that.

The naysayers can point to McNabb's age and his inability to win the Super Bowl as reasons why the Skins shouldn't do it. As far as McNabb's age goes, top tier quarterbacks are playing well into their thirties nowadays and being very productive while they're at it. In terms of does this make the Skins a Super Bowl contender, well probably not. But we know for sure they aren't under Campbell either. My biggest issue with Campbell is that his stats are deceiving. Good enough to keep him around, but not bad enough to flat out dump him.

If --and it's a big f*cken if-- the front office pulls the trigger on this deal, there's likely a two to three year window and after that they cut their losses. But for what's on it's worth, I'm on the record saying that JC is outta here come by draft day if not before.

I could not agree more.

Also as far as some guys comparing JC and Mcnabbs % stats. You have to look at the type of pass plays and the rythm. JC holds the ball to long, he make SHORT little dump passes, while Mcnabb drops back and lets it fly. Usually past the marker. He is able to get into a fast rythm and stay ahead of the defense. JC is very predictable in his play IMO.

I would much rather have a QB whose stats reflect plays that actually include 1st downs than a QB who make a bunch of short go nowhere passes that only look OK on % stats.

I would LOVE McNabb on this team. He could easily play another 4-5 seasons and still be pretty damn good. You've got to be high to not like this potential move. Doubt it will happen, but I would gladly give up a 2nd rounder for him.

Okung with #4, McNabb for our 2nd rounder = no brainer.

I'll take that to mean you'd have to not have a brain to make that deal. We're not the Vikings where all you need is a QB better than Jackson or Rosenfels to be a Super Bowl team. A 33 year old QB who has had a pretty good defense his entire career and a HC who makes the o-line a priority and a pretty good back in Westbrook should have had a pretty good career. Hell, they even made A.J. Feeley look good enough to get a big contract. He can keep throwing the ball in the dirt in Philly. No thank you.

I would LOVE McNabb on this team. He could easily play another 4-5 seasons and still be pretty damn good. You've got to be high to not like this potential move. Doubt it will happen, but I would gladly give up a 2nd rounder for him.

Okung with #4, McNabb for our 2nd rounder = no brainer.
I don't get high so ..... I must like the move . Whoever leads this team , I just hope they lead us to many wins , and a V. Lombardi Trophy or two .

I'll take that to mean you'd have to not have a brain to make that deal. We're not the Vikings where all you need is a QB better than Jackson or Rosenfels to be a Super Bowl team. A 33 year old QB who has had a pretty good defense his entire career and a HC who makes the o-line a priority and a pretty good back in Westbrook should have had a pretty good career. Hell, they even made A.J. Feeley look good enough to get a big contract. He can keep throwing the ball in the dirt in Philly. No thank you.

No but having a QB like Mcnabb can make us that team. I believe the Viks were inspired by Farve and stepped up their game because he gave them the ability to see themselves as contenders.

I believe having Mcnabb would inspire our entire team to play at the next level, if for no other reason than purely because they know Mcnabb has been there. He's a proven leader. And playing in NFC East they have seen him often enough to know he's a winner.

I don't care what kind of team we put together. Under JC we will go nowhere!

The Skins don't believe in him. neither do I.

BTW good to see you 53 :)

Here is the bottom line, Philly under McNabb has dominated the NFC East. It isn't even close. JC has accomplished nothing, and I mean NOTHING. He hasn't won any meaningful regular season games. He has won no divisions. He hasn't been to the playoffs, let alone win a playoff game. He has been to zero NFC Championship games and from a statistical perspective JC is way below the mean from a winning percentage as a starting QB. Do we need to bring up Pro-Bowls?

Actually, the pro-bowls are the only thing that count to me. You go to a pro-bowl and about 85% of the reason is ALL YOU. If you got to the playoffs or get to /win the big one, that's a team effort thing.

A lot of people make the mistake of lumping win and lost columns into the QB's stats. Wake up guys. Tom Brady has never won a superbowl. The kicker that won each of those games has more rings than he does you know. Vinatieri made the 45 yarder to tie, and a 25 yarder to win brady's first ring. Final play in the win against the rams? Another 48 yarder from Adam. The man has 20 last minute field goal wins that too many people give Tom Brady the credit for. Stop giving QB's all the credit!

As for Donovan having done more with less, he has never HAD less!?! Seriously, Until you have a comparably bad o-line, a bad coach, a revolving door of crappy kickers, and an 80 year old veteran with less experience than you as a back-up, then you are in a better situation. McNabb is in an offense BUILT around his abilities, has always had a good to awesome o-line, and has usualy had as good or better receivers.

Also, please stop saying that jason hasn't had the big win or big this or that because Jason's play has not been the steady factor in our losses. Once again, against the Saints he completed 30 of 42 for 367 yards. The man avoided getting sacked the whole game and had a passer rating of 111.9 but his 3 touchdown passes meant NOTHING because Sellers fumbled the ball in overtime! Without Portis, our running game was, once again crap. He had to carry the team on his own, getting beaten up and thrown to the ground after every other throw. The big win was snatched away from his magical QB rating column thanks to Sellers. Yes, i can go to the interception that was fumbled and other things that happened, but i'm talking about our last posession in overtime.

I will get over it if McNabb takes the reigns, but i would rather give JC what it takes to win and watch the man go.

You guys are funny. The whole thing might just be to see what they want for McNabb so they can expect what to get from trading JC. Sort of an intelligence gathering operation for further use. McNabb is not the best in the league by far, and is indeed just above average like JC, and he had a much better WR corp than JC to work with. I would worry more about JC being future trade bait in the not too distant future. Look for a possible deal come draft time.

Exactly

SmootSmack has repeatedly said that we should expect some personnel head-scratchers from MS. If this is anything more than a passing check for value, this would be a head-scratcher to me. Nothing against McNabb but the Eagles might not do this cheap and we are in prime position to land a young QB, so wtf?

I'm thinking more in terms of a draft weekend head scratcher like trading our trading our 2nd and 4th picks to move up into the bottom of the 1st to make sure we get Colt McCoy. That kind of thing.

As far as I know, there's no serious interest in getting McNabb. And if I was McNabb, I'd actually be pretty pissed if the Eagles traded me to the Redskins. Yeah Donovan, we appreciate all you've done for us, we want to put you someplace you're happy, we totally respect you...but not so much that we mind playing you twice a year.

Actually, the pro-bowls are the only thing that count to me. You go to a pro-bowl and about 85% of the reason is ALL YOU. If you got to the playoffs or get to /win the big one, that's a team effort thing.

A lot of people make the mistake of lumping win and lost columns into the QB's stats. Wake up guys. Tom Brady has never won a superbowl. The kicker that won each of those games has more rings than he does you know. Vinatieri made the 45 yarder to tie, and a 25 yarder to win brady's first ring. Final play in the win against the rams? Another 48 yarder from Adam. The man has 20 last minute field goal wins that too many people give Tom Brady the credit for. Stop giving QB's all the credit!

As for Donovan having done more with less, he has never HAD less!?! Seriously, Until you have a comparably bad o-line, a bad coach, a revolving door of crappy kickers, and an 80 year old veteran with less experience than you as a back-up, then you are in a better situation. McNabb is in an offense BUILT around his abilities, has always had a good to awesome o-line, and has usualy had as good or better receivers.

Also, please stop saying that jason hasn't had the big win or big this or that because Jason's play has not been the steady factor in our losses. Once again, against the Saints he completed 30 of 42 for 367 yards. The man avoided getting sacked the whole game and had a passer rating of 111.9 but his 3 touchdown passes meant NOTHING because Sellers fumbled the ball in overtime! Without Portis, our running game was, once again crap. He had to carry the team on his own, getting beaten up and thrown to the ground after every other throw. The big win was snatched away from his magical QB rating column thanks to Sellers. Yes, i can go to the interception that was fumbled and other things that happened, but i'm talking about our last posession in overtime.

I will get over it if McNabb takes the reigns, but i would rather give JC what it takes to win and watch the man go.

I guess this had nothing to do with our "sorry ass" O line protecting him? Can't give JC all the credit if you don't give him all the fault.

Yes JC and the Skins had a VERY NICE GAME. BUT Saints had a VERY BAD GAME. or are we actually able to beat a SB team? If that is the case then a better QB would definatly make the diff.

Im not a Mcnabb fan at all. But, I'm not against him coming here.

We have given JC what he needs to win. But, he just cant win.

Can you imagine if Barry Sanders played on the sorry Lions? He would have never emerged as one of and IMO the best back ever. Oh wait he did play with the sorry Lions.

Im not comparing QB to Backs but in there respective positions talent stands out despite the team you have around you. Put JC on the Saints and they don't make the playoffs.