And the #4 pick is...

I am getting less and less comfortable with our draft position. It seems most everyone has the same opinion of Williams and Okung. Potentially good but also potential busts. I am pretty desperate for a trade down..which is obviously easier said than done. Big x-fingers for a trade down.

I wouldn't worry too much about the top tackles busting. The success rate of 1st round tackles is pretty solid. A trade down would be great, but as Allen himself said movement in the top 4 historically hasn't happened too often.

I'm really, really tired of reading draft analysis at this point. First you hear great things about a guy, a week later he's bust material, then the next week his stock is rising again. It's ridiculous. Let's get this thing going already!

I heard Phily wants Berry their 1st pick #24 i beleive & 2 2nd rd picks (one of them would be the one we gave for DM) back for our #4 would you do it.

Of course! That would be a steal for us. 3 picks for 1 & would cost less $ overall.

The Philly of old would never do that deal, in fact I think it would be foolish to even post that if Roseman wasn't in the GM spot as he is. I read on espn about him, he's 34 & he says he's more "aggressive" than the last guy (can't remember his name). I guess Joe Banner is still the prez, so the mgmt. hasn't changed wholesale, but supposedly Roseman pushed hard to trade McNabb & he wants to upgrade the D w/a playmaker.

Sal P. on espn has said that it's possible they would move up to get berry as you said. Since we've already done a big deal w/them, I could see Philly trading up but I would be shocked if they actually offered 2 2nds & their first. I think 1 2nd & I first would do it.

I can't see a rebuilding Cleveland team trading 3 picks to select Berry, they need all the picks they can get just like us.

Well technically they are just giving up their 2nd rounder, they move up in the first round and they switch places with Washington in the 4th round. I don't know how that is giving picks up.

Cleveland would very much like to have Eric Berry or one of the top three tackles. At #7 none of these guys would be available, they could pick up Clausen, but I'm sure they would also reach hear and pick up Dan Williams from Tennessee. I can see either Cleveland or Buffalo wanting to move up...maybe Jax. I'd gladly trade down, if it results us in getting that 2nd rounder back.

there are a couple really good articles out this morning about the willams vs. okung debate. i feel like this thread has morphed into that discussion a bit, so i figured i could post them here.

I think it's interesting that Rick Maese mentions that the Oklahoma coaches learned a lot of their zone block scheme from Shanny: Redskins Insider - Oklahoma assistant thinks Redskins, Williams would be a good fit (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/offensive-line/oklahoma-assistant-thinks-reds.html#more)

Jason Reid with some other info on our top 2 OT options: washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/20/AR2010042004909.html)

Im getting anxious. I will also be driving during the draft, into a different radio zone too. I hope I dont miss our pick.

Any rough idea when the 4th pick will come around? I know it will vary based on how quickly teams draft.

Im getting anxious. I will also be driving during the draft, into a different radio zone too. I hope I dont miss our pick.

Any rough idea when the 4th pick will come around? I know it will vary based on how quickly teams draft.

It's 15 minute increments right? If so, the Rams will probably be pretty quick, just checking for last minute trades, so maybe 5 minutes.

Detroit will definitely have the phones open so they will probably take the full 15 minutes.

Tampa I think will be fairly quick, so we could be on the clock between 25 minutes (quickest case) and 45 minutes if everyone takes the full 15 minutes.

So we would be on the clock by 8:15 at the latest.

Of course once we trade down to the 6th pick that's another half hour, and another 75mins till the 9th once we swap picks with Buffalo, so really probably about 9:45 ;)

My Brother Russell!

It's 15 minute increments right? If so, the Rams will probably be pretty quick, just checking for last minute trades, so maybe 5 minutes.

Detroit will definitely have the phones open so they will probably take the full 15 minutes.

Tampa I think will be fairly quick, so we could be on the clock between 25 minutes (quickest case) and 45 minutes if everyone takes the full 15 minutes.

So we would be on the clock by 8:15 at the latest.

They changed it to 10 minutes a few years back