Shanahan: Williams is a natural for zone-blocking scheme

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Duffman003
04-23-2010, 08:00 PM
I haven't heard that about Williams. Your source?

Some critics on NFLN last night were saying Okung is a major holder, partially because of his extra-long arms and his technique.

I believe we picked the best tackle in the draft.

According to ESPN he :
Has shown some versatility and willingness to put team ahead of self and has lined up at LOT, ROT and OC throughout career. Has a few off the field issues and habits. Questionable overall passion for the game and work ethic. Not a fan of the weight room.

Maybe he will turn it around after college, but I don't agree with the idea that he wasn't working out in college due to his, possibly, busy schedule.

mlmdub130
04-23-2010, 08:03 PM
According to ESPN he :
Has shown some versatility and willingness to put team ahead of self and has lined up at LOT, ROT and OC throughout career. Has a few off the field issues and habits. Questionable overall passion for the game and work ethic. Not a fan of the weight room.

Maybe he will turn it around after college, but I don't agree with the idea that he wasn't working out in college due to his, possibly, busy schedule.

well hopefully we can get a very incentive based contract instead of giving him 42 mil without taking a snap as a redskin. i feel like we have more reward with william over okung with minimal risk

The Goat
04-23-2010, 09:39 PM
Arizona is the only team I've really been able to see that stocked up on pass catchers and received any real benefit. Dez Bryant is basically a locker room time bomb. Now personally I consider Ray Lewis a bomb disposal expert so if Baltimore had selected him then that would have been a great pick, but put him in a Dallas locker room that just got over not having T.O. there and you hopefully have a locker room implosion. Of course if he develops it'll be dangerous for us, but I'm hoping for another Charles Rogers.

Great line! Sooooooo Dallas should really find a way to acquire Ray Lewis :)

Hog1
04-23-2010, 11:13 PM
The burning question is: If Trent Williams was so good, Why did he get moved to center? It doesn't make sense to move your starting senior LT inside, no matter who's injured there unless he was a liability outside.
I have to ask....do you think that the...Shanny's, Bruce, etc were unaware of this in their evaluations?

Dirtbag59
04-23-2010, 11:18 PM
Great line! Sooooooo Dallas should really find a way to acquire Ray Lewis :)

Thank you. I know that I hope a lot of crappy lines I come up with get quoted but I was really proud of that one.

WaldSkins
04-23-2010, 11:22 PM
Arizona is the only team I've really been able to see that stocked up on pass catchers and received any real benefit. Dez Bryant is basically a locker room time bomb. Now personally I consider Ray Lewis a bomb disposal expert so if Baltimore had selected him then that would have been a great pick, but put him in a Dallas locker room that just got over not having T.O. there and you hopefully have a locker room implosion. Of course if he develops it'll be dangerous for us, but I'm hoping for another Charles Rogers.

Is that because he jumps on the pile after a tackle has already been made?

Dirtbag59
04-23-2010, 11:32 PM
Is that because he jumps on the pile after a tackle has already been made?

No, it's more of a reference to his ability to command respect in the locker room. Personally I have never heard of the Ravens locker room blowing up and it's not like they haven't brought in questionable characters. I seriously doubt a guy like Dez Bryant would get very far with his "diva" routine had he gone to Baltimore. Dallas on the other hand all but seems to encourage such behavior, even though at this point it might be unintentional.

It's very similar to the level of respect I command around here in the Warpath, especially in the Locker Room part of the forum. I mean when's the last time you saw someone challenge my status as the alpha dog?

ethat001
08-15-2010, 04:00 PM
Just wanted to tip my hat to our very own Trent Williams by bumping this thread. I thought he did wonderfully for his first game, even if he says he was "nervous" the entire time.

In comparison, Sam Bradford found himself hit repeatedly in his first game due to poor LT play from Jason Smith, the Ram's last year's first round pick (#2 overall). Admittedly, we were playing the Bills..


Sam Bradford fine, but he needs protection

August 15, 2010 at 12am

Unfortunately for Bradford, right tackle Jason Smith could not block backup Minnesota Vikings defensive end Jayme Mitchell, a player whose most recent regular-season sack came in 2007 (one of 4.0 career sacks for Mitchell). It's not good when the player St. Louis drafted second overall in 2009 cannot prevent an NFL backup from roughing up the new franchise quarterback. But there were mitigating factors. Smith has missed time to injury lately. He improved significantly through the course of the preseason a year ago, and he has time to do the same this summer.

Perhaps this was merely an off night for Smith, but I came out of this game with more questions about Smith's pass protection than about Bradford's poise or potential. Consider it a reminder that quarterbacks, though increasingly important as the NFL becomes more pass-oriented, still need considerable support to function, let alone flourish.

Bradford's third and final series of the first half went like this:
First down: Mitchell drives Smith off the ball, raises his hands and bats down Bradford's pass.

Second down: Mitchell beats Smith again, disrupting Bradford and collecting a half-sack on the play.

Third down: Mitchell beats Smith for a full sack this time.

Sam Bradford fine, but he needs protection - NFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/21301/sam-bradford-fine-but-he-needs-protection)

SirClintonPortis
08-15-2010, 04:06 PM
And to think a significant portion of Redskins fans were perfectly content to just go ahead draft a QB on the HOPE that Shanahan would pull some magic trick out of his hat for the bunch of mediocre or bad players we had kept over from the past year and develop them into a Chris Samuels caliber players. I'm so happy that they have had the mental snot knocked out of them with the T. Williams pick and the Jammal Brown trade. Sometimes you gotta spend big to get big talent. No more cheapskate Vinny philosophy to building an Oline.

And I'm glad Shanny has once again hit on his talent evaluation.

Dirtbag59
08-16-2010, 02:17 AM
And to think a significant portion of Redskins fans were perfectly content to just go ahead draft a QB on the HOPE that Shanahan would pull some magic trick out of his hat for the bunch of mediocre or bad players we had kept over from the past year and develop them into a Chris Samuels caliber players. I'm so happy that they have had the mental snot knocked out of them with the T. Williams pick and the Jammal Brown trade. Sometimes you gotta spend big to get big talent. No more cheapskate Vinny philosophy to building an Oline.

And I'm glad Shanny has once again hit on his talent evaluation.

What we have here is a case of immediate gratification. You could very well end up being right but you're judging the entire direction of a franchise based on one week of preseason games. Am I happy with who we got this offseason? You're damn right I am.

However it's possible that we could be back to square one in 3-5 years looking for another QB all the while Bradford has the Rams in the playoff hunt on an annual basis.

Also hypothetically speaking we still could have traded for Jamaal Brown at around the same price we got him for this year, and at this point Jamaal Brown is a much better LT then Williams. It's just that Shanahan would rather put Trent in this position from the get go.

All in all I'm ecstatic to have Trent, and even happier to have McNabb but it's way to early to say we would have been making a mistake had Bradford fell into our laps. All in all you still win in this league with QB play, we were just lucky that the Eagles brass decided to go on a bender during Easter Weekend and trade us McNabb (same with Jamaal Brown). I wouldn't count on that type of luck repeating itself.

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