Bugel asks Ramsey to show something

At this point I'm sticking with Brunell. We need this team to hold together for the up & coming games....

Who knows what Bugel is talking about exactly, I guess the message is he wants him to make the most of every opportunity he gets. He must not be doing something right if Bugel is asking him to step up.

I think Ramsey really blew it when he came in the Giants game, but lets not forget, he didn't look good at all in preseason. He had a good chance to come in and win the game, not just play well, but win it, and he gave the thing away.

I'm sure he has not look good in the opportunities he has had in practice. I am firm believer that if Ramsey gave us a better chance to win, Gibbs would put him....how can anyone argue that???

I dont know, this is such a hard scenerio to speculate about, because we dont see practice. All I can go off of is what I have seen from Ramsey in the past, which I was very impressed by and what I have seen from Brunell this year which has been horrid. I dont know, its all pure speculation, I should sneak into Redskins park and see whats really going on.

It almost seem that Ramsey is content with being a back up QB. Not knowing the full story but even though he may not be with the starting O in practice he would be with them as is the rest of the O in drills such as 7 on 7, QB drills or whatever, that would give him a chance to show something.

Brunnell won the starting job in the preseason. Although Imo it had more to do with Ramsey looking bad. I'm disappointed in Ramsey because I think what Bugel said is right on. The whole world knows that Brunnell's best days as a QB are behind him. With the way he's been performing, Ramsey should be taking advantage of the situation. I think he hasn't shown enough to Gibbs to justify a change and that says a lot considering the way Brunnell is playing. Ramsey needs to step up already and make Gibbs at least think twice before naming Brunnell the starter.

This is a live chat on the Washington Post.com........

Richmond, Va.: There are some comments out there from Bugel that Ramsey may be dogging it in practice or "not showing" anything. Have you heard anything like that? And if so, I thought the back-up only ran the scout team offense and had minimal to no snaps with the 1st team offense. How are you expected to thrive in that situation? Thanks.

Jason LaCanfora: I heard rumblings this week that Joe Bugel may have said something like that in a TV interview, but Ramsey real has no chance to show much given how few snaps he takes. He has been nothing but a modal citizen from what we can garner and Gibbs has raved about him. I also asked Gibbs this exact questiuon last Friday, wondering if there are things Patrick can still do in this limited role to show he has a better grasp of the offense than before, and Gibbs said he is in fact doing exactyl that, practicing hard, never complains, asks good questions of the coaches and Brunell, etc.
Now, I also know that Coach Bugel can be a lot more direct and brutally honest than Coach Gibbs tends to be, so there may be something to it, but if they thought Ramsey could give them a better chance to win no matter how bad he looked with the scout team, there is no doubt in my mind he would play. I think this issue is much larger than that and coems down to Brunell being a veteran and played very careful football taking no chances with turnovers. Even if he complets under 10 passes a game, Gibbs knows the D can keep it close and Portis can grind teams down. The fear is Ramsey makes a great play and then throws two big picks; they want consistnecy, even if it is consistently unproductive but does not result in turnovers, it seems.

This is a live chat on the Washington Post.com........

Richmond, Va.: There are some comments out there from Bugel that Ramsey may be dogging it in practice or "not showing" anything. Have you heard anything like that? And if so, I thought the back-up only ran the scout team offense and had minimal to no snaps with the 1st team offense. How are you expected to thrive in that situation? Thanks.

Jason LaCanfora: I heard rumblings this week that Joe Bugel may have said something like that in a TV interview, but Ramsey real has no chance to show much given how few snaps he takes. He has been nothing but a modal citizen from what we can garner and Gibbs has raved about him. I also asked Gibbs this exact questiuon last Friday, wondering if there are things Patrick can still do in this limited role to show he has a better grasp of the offense than before, and Gibbs said he is in fact doing exactyl that, practicing hard, never complains, asks good questions of the coaches and Brunell, etc.
Now, I also know that Coach Bugel can be a lot more direct and brutally honest than Coach Gibbs tends to be, so there may be something to it, but if they thought Ramsey could give them a better chance to win no matter how bad he looked with the scout team, there is no doubt in my mind he would play. I think this issue is much larger than that and coems down to Brunell being a veteran and played very careful football taking no chances with turnovers. Even if he complets under 10 passes a game, Gibbs knows the D can keep it close and Portis can grind teams down. The fear is Ramsey makes a great play and then throws two big picks; they want consistnecy, even if it is consistently unproductive but does not result in turnovers, it seems.
Pretty good take on the situation in my opinion.

yes but even with the inconsistency you'd like to think our D can make up for it... we've already given up several TDs on offense. how much worse could it get? it must be something like everyone's saying with ramsey just not being ready i guess... only time will tell.

I think there are a couple of factors with Ramsey right now. First Gibbs probably still has a bad tast in his mouth from the Giants game. Even a couple of the picks weren't his fault, he def. shouldn't his inexperience. Second Gibbs always stays loyal to his vets. Lets not forget that GIbbs and brunnel are buddy buddy, they got the whole religion thing in common and other stuff. ANd third and most importantly, this is Ramsey's first time in a NFL offense. I'm sure there has been some things that Ramsey had been slow to pick up on. He needs time. But he also needs experience.


Ramsey also has the whole 'religion thing' in common with Gibbs, but that has nothing to do with it anyways.

Charles Mann said that Ramsey is learning more standing on the sidelines listening to everything the coaching staff says about every plan than he would if he were on the field.

This whole situation might boil down to what one of the Fox guys said; Ramsey is still scared of Gibbs. Think about it. If you're nervous around somebody, you're gonna tighten up a bit. From what Matty said, Patrick isn't showing all he can do in practice, which goes with what I said above. If this is the case, it's really not a work ethic issue.