Devin Thomas' inconsistency continues

I'd say Moss is still the fastest WR, followed by Banks (assuming he makes the team), Galloway (still think he has some speed left) T. Austin, Thomas, and Kelly. That should rank in the top 15, assuming we keep 6 WRs (doubt it). I'd bet to think we have the fastest WR's overall in the NFC East team, but speed alone almost never wins games.

I don't think speed alone wins games, I just wasn't sure where our receivers rank speed wise. I am hoping we see more ability to create separation, from any of our receivers. I don't really care who steps up, but it would be nice to see a competent passing game for once.

Oh and just because the writer says he's an "outsider" doesn't mean he's oblivious to whats going on. All it might mean is he has not been down to the park to see for himself. He's most likely getting his information form someone else who is down at the park watching everyday whats going on. At this point we don't even know if it's possibly a coach of some type feeding him inside info.

But... lets take the "I'm an outsider" statement and call him an idiot for writing a story and not having any clue about what he's talking about.

I am. I'm not throwing them out with the bath water just yet. I'm just tired of the "Oh don't worry they will be our #1 and #2", "You'll see they are gunna step up any day now", "this is their 3rd yr and that means they are gunna bust out" mentality. All I'm hoping for is that the coaching staff has made contingiency plans for if Thomas and Kelly don't step up, and Galloway and Wade are not my ideas of contingiency plans. I truly hope everyone is at some point telling me "I told you so."

I'm not sure anyone has made any iron clad predictions about these guys busting out. The general view seems to be that it's a little early to be worrying too much.

Personally I'm tired of folks tossing players to the curb prematurely. If some people had their way players would never get the chance to blossom. And we would have a team full of guys that shine in the preseason playing against 4th and 5th string players.

This is going to be a very telling year for both guys. Make or break.

It's got nothing to do with excuses, these are WRs entering their 3rd seasons. It typically takes 2-3 seasons for WRs to fully blossom. How about we try to have a little patience considering we're not even into August yet?

I agree with you here, but the real question is how patient will Shanny be? Everything Shanny has done so far points to a "win now" expectation. We are not in a rebuilding process, so I really believe if he doesnt see the results preseason, he is not going to hesitate to play vets or bring someone else in. I stated on another thread I really would not be surprised to see one of the two not make the team. Receiver position on this team IMO has been a weakness for awhile, hopefully we see a breakout from one of the two this year, HTTR.

Isn't it a little too early for threads like this???? As much as I'm ready to turn the page on Kelly and Thomas it's June. Let's see how they do in training camp and pre season when the pads are on. But let's be honest. 40 catches in two years for Thomas and Kelly has even less. That is simply pathetic. IMO neither of these guys are NFL material and that's why they signed Gage and 50 year old Galloway. The offense is still going to struggle cause we don't have the talent on the outside.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Patrick Crayton. I don't see hom making the Dallas roster.

I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.

I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.

You summed it up very well...I'd agree with all of it.

I'm also not worried about DT, I really think he'll break out this year despite (and maybe due to) not needing to be the key to the offense. Kelly should also do well in some games, but he's the inconsistent one we should be talking about. Galloway will be a possession, key catch kind of guy...much like James Thrash was...not a major factor but makes plays when we need him to.

2011: DT will be the #1 and MK will be on the hot seat to step up, basically Devin's position this year.

I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.

I'm not overly concerned about the WR spot either. I think we'll get enough out of them to get the job done. McNabb worked with a lot less for most of his time in Philly and managed to put up big numbers. And we've got a pair of superb TE's to throw to as well.

You summed it up very well...I'd agree with all of it.

I'm also not worried about DT, I really think he'll break out this year despite (and maybe due to) not needing to be the key to the offense. Kelly should also do well in some games, but he's the inconsistent one we should be talking about. Galloway will be a possession, key catch kind of guy...much like James Thrash was...not a major factor but makes plays when we need him to.

2011: DT will be the #1 and MK will be on the hot seat to step up, basically Devin's position this year.

so one thing i havent heard is what roles we are trying to put our receivers in? who's getting most of the #1 and #2 reps?