Should We Go After Another QB in Offseason

If we were to cut Brunell after this season, we'd probably wait to cut Brunell until after June 1st so as to defer the cap hit (of about $6 million) until the 2006 season. Even still, its going to be a monster hit. I don't see us cutting him until June 1st of the 2006 season so as to delay the cap hit to 2007.

That said, I don't believe we should go after Brees. First, we've still got Ramsey and I don't want to change my screenname. Second, he's going to cost an arm, a leg, and a HIGH draft pick. Third, he's only played well in one half of one season. Stick it out with Ramsey.

I'd be much happier right now if we had let Ramsey progress and see if he will work out. David Carr, Joey Harrington, and Drew Brees have all improved by leaps and bounds. I wonder where Ramsey would be right now if he had logged the game time that those three have.

This is probably just speculation, but here's an exact quote from the NFL Hot Reads section in the latest issue of ESPN The Magazine:

You'd think Drew Brees picked the right time to be a FA. Think again. The struggling Bucs (happy with Chris Simms and Brian Griese, Dolphins (financially tied up in A.J. Feeley) and 49ers (still unwilling to give up on Tim Rattay) may stay out of the market. The No. 1 opportunity: The Redskins

I'm not sure why they say the Fins are financially tied up in Feeley but don't mention that we are with Brunell. We are, aren't we?

I guess the fact that Ramsey has made no dent here is good sign that he has no real future with the Redskins. We will be on the upswing by next year and will not have time for Ramsey to develop, because the team will be held back. So the best thing for Ramsey is probably to get traded to a team that will give him some practice snaps and a shot at the starting lineup.

I think we will probably trade for another veteran, draft a quarterback at some level, and give Hasselbeck a legitimate shot to compete in training camp.
completely disagree... if you think ramsey doesn't have a future cause he's not starting now, what makes you think hasslebeck has a future here???

I think he's just giving him time, otherwise he would have traded him in preseason or over the first 6 weeks (bears, miami, etc)... i'd love to see him play to know where we're at... and btw, we couldn't afford brees no matter how much we wanted him (He has one 300 yard game over two years i think... he's had a good 8 games, but not worth what he's going to be asking for...)

I'm not sure why they say the Fins are financially tied up in Feeley but don't mention that we are with Brunell. We are, aren't we?
compared to feeley? YES, and YES... brunell's contract is the worst decision of the last two-three years... its soo inflated... he's not half as good as manning, but he gets paid like it ;)

Just because Ramsey is not starting doesnt meen we should go out shopping for a new QB who would come in here and have to learn the Gibbs system and the hype surrounding Brees is strange given he has had one good year.

Ramsey is learning the system he is the future he is being given the thing he has never been given and that is time . To put him in before he is not ready will further erode his confidence one thing Brunell is doing well right now is taking the heat from the fans allowing the team to find its identity.

We need consistancy Manning, Farve, Caulpeper, McNabb, McNair all have one thing in common... consistancy. Ramsey has the tools to be a great QB but they nearly got beaten out of him running the collage system he was in the last two years. Ramsey is learning more on the side lines than he could durring the game and okay he is running the scout team in practice but he is still running the Gibbs offence. A confident Ramsey in my mind is better than the unknown of a Drew Brees in a contract year.

we definately need to improve.

Brunell is well, playing horrible. and we really don't know what Patrick can do. I would like to see us grab one in the 2nd round.

Think about what Ramsey was looking like at this point last year. Before the defenses totally figured out the system and got hurt he was having a great passing year. Now you guys are looking at a guy who is looks good only half way through this year as his potential replacement? :stop:

Absolutely not.

Brunell's cap hit is too big for the next three years, and Gibbs has been through too much crap for the Brunell trade and keeping Ramsey on the bench (to groom him for when his time comes-- and it will come) to go through that again with another young quarterback that he won't be comfortable with as a starter next season.

If you think Gibbs is enduring too much criticism now for the whole Brunell debacle, imagine how much more intense that criticism will become if he makes a move to acquire another young-- and expensive-- quarterback who will have to spend another season being groomed while Brunell continues to start.

If you believe that Gibbs' word is bond and his decisions are above reproach-- which is the mantra I've been hearing from a lot of folks through this whole mess-- then why would Gibbs say that Patrick Ramsey is the future of the Redskins franchise (and he has said that more than once, and in the not-so-distant past), if he isn't indeed the future of the Redskins franchise?

If you think Gibbs is just saying that because "it's the right thing to say right now," then I guess he's just blowing smoke up our collective butt about how Brunell's "fighting his guts out" and "is the best chance for this team to win right now" too, isn't he?

I think that Joe believed his statement to be true when he made it. But from the sounds of it, his opinion of Ramsey may have changed for the worse over the course of camp and the season so far. There were reports of him thinking Ramsey was too cocky and not practising well. I love Joe, but I don't believe that he is going to keep his word to Patrick if he doesn't believe that he gives the Redskins their best chance to win.



If you believe that Gibbs' word is bond and his decisions are above reproach-- which is the mantra I've been hearing from a lot of folks through this whole mess-- then why would Gibbs say that Patrick Ramsey is the future of the Redskins franchise (and he has said that more than once, and in the not-so-distant past), if he isn't indeed the future of the Redskins franchise?

If you think Gibbs is just saying that because "it's the right thing to say right now," then I guess he's just blowing smoke up our collective butt about how Brunell's "fighting his guts out" and "is the best chance for this team to win right now" too, isn't he?

Bringing in yet another new QB is only going to stunt the growth and development of the foundation of the team that is trying to be established this season.

I really don't see Gibbs staying past his 5-year committment, so year 2 and 3 are critical years. I believe the team needs to take serious strides forward in those years, bringing a new QB in to the mix isn't going to help. Not when we've seen the way our QB's have struggled in learning the system this year.

We have consistency now... it's just not the kind of consistency we're looking for. 3 of the last 4 games under 100 yds passing. I'd sacrafice consistency right now for sporadic positive performance.


We need consistancy Manning, Farve, Caulpeper, McNabb, McNair all have one thing in common... consistancy. Ramsey has the tools to be a great QB but they nearly got beaten out of him running the collage system he was in the last two years. Ramsey is learning more on the side lines than he could durring the game and okay he is running the scout team in practice but he is still running the Gibbs offence. A confident Ramsey in my mind is better than the unknown of a Drew Brees in a contract year.