cpayne5
02-25-2004, 03:32 PM
The only decent late round pick that Cerrato has had is Rock. He's done an OK job with the high picks. In 2k, he couldn't really go wrong with the #2 & #3 overall picks that Casserly gave him to work with.
WP: Cerrato gets an extensioncpayne5 02-25-2004, 03:32 PM The only decent late round pick that Cerrato has had is Rock. He's done an OK job with the high picks. In 2k, he couldn't really go wrong with the #2 & #3 overall picks that Casserly gave him to work with. azskinsfan2 02-25-2004, 07:47 PM With the way Gibbs has said they are working the draft, with all the coaches, scouts, etc, etc, going to the combine, going over all the potential draftees and then all getting together to pool their thoughts and recommendations and then decide who to take and looking at free agency and trades before that, I don't think anything will be left up to Vinny to decide. I think we'll get what need in any case. cpayne5 02-25-2004, 07:51 PM Sounds as if Cerrato may be relegated to trade & contract negiations. He will be the wine and diner of the bunch. Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-26-2004, 09:18 AM I too agree with Matty and think that Cerrato has gotten a bad rap. Our personnel have been great since Vinny has been here, the leadsership has sucked. Coles, Thomas, Dockery, and RAMSEY were all of Cerrato's guys. Anyone recall how Spurrier didn't want Ramsey but CERRATO saw somethign in him? That is enough for me. Those acquisitions far outweigh any mistakes he's made. Frankly I don't know why there is so much whining about the guy. Yes, yes he failed on the dline last year, but given the strength of our secondary (which we thought would produce coverage sacks by a pathetic front four) and LBs (who we thought would bring some heat), I don't really blame Cerrato. I'd give him a B+ for the job he's done. redwagonskins 02-26-2004, 11:42 AM The proof will be in the pudding. We're going into the draft with two picks and a lot of holes. If Vinnie can do something with that and get us into playoff contention (not looking for the superbowl this year, just having the skins on those late season bubble charts ESPN always does) then he's the guy. If it's another lackluster performance by overpaid, undermotivated players then we have a problem. I tend to think there is a master plan in all this (at least I'm hoping) and Vinnie is getting the players that Gibbs and staff need to win. MTK 02-26-2004, 11:55 AM Don't forget that Vinny also has input in evaluating free agents, so we can't judge him soley on the drafts, which he has never had full control over anyway. Snyder deserves the blame just as much as Vinny since Snyder also has a say in draft selections. People always want to blame Vinny when things go wrong, when they need to blame the entire front office. Vinny is primarily a talent scout and nothing more. He's not the one pulling the trigger on deals, draft selections, negotiating contracts, etc. His role with the front office is actually pretty limited when you look at the big picture, yet he has always been the scapegoat which is just ridiculous. Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-26-2004, 12:05 PM Again, I totally agree with Matty and Vinny is just a scapegoat, the talent has been here, the leadership has not. Blame Snyder for the constant turmoil, huge contracts, and the poor HC hirings. Gmanc711 02-26-2004, 12:12 PM Well, the former poor hc hirings. I really hope their is a player, who takes the stand as our teams leader. If that were to happen who would you guys wanna see take the stand. I would want Arrington and/or Smoot , both who mildly did last year, I hope they do to a higher degree this year. Then of course God Gibbs. SkinsRock 02-26-2004, 04:19 PM The proof will be in the pudding. We're going into the draft with two picks and a lot of holes. No necessarily... We are going into the Free Agency/Trading period with two draft picks and a lot of holes. I suspect that many of them will be filled and trades may be made to get more picks by the time the draft rolls around. redwagonskins 02-26-2004, 04:23 PM SkinsRock: here's hoping. I can't wait to see where the Dan's jet ends up this year. We're already being called out as having tampered with Ted Washington. This is going to be a blast to watch! One thing I can say, it's never dull in Redskin land! |
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