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Shane 11-15-2004, 11:56 AM We can't say who should start in 2005 because we don't know what Ramsey is going to do this season. We should not cede this season to Ramsey - he has to earn it. We have another quarterback on the roster, and if Ramsey can't get the team going, then we shouldn't stick with him until the ship sinks under the sea. We should get a new boat - Hasselbeck. If Ramsey shows promise and keeps improving, then let him play.
I don't think we are going to spend a lot in free agency on Brees. If Kitna comes cheap, then he is a possibility. I think at this point we should let Brunell go and take the salary cap hit.
If Ramsey flounders and is not showing promise, then I think we should release him at the end of the season, or trade him if possible. Hopefully, however, his time on the sidelines has given him a chance to master the system mentally. With Brunell fading from the picture, he doesn't have anyone looking over his shoulder in the immediate future.
Now is the time - Ramsey has to show he can be the leader or else we have to let him go and start anew. I wish him luck.
Defensewins 11-15-2004, 11:58 AM ...He basically has a 7 game audition for next season. It's not going to be easy for him, he hasn't had much work all season in practice and now all of a sudden he's the starter. Plus we're entering a tough part of the schedule so his margin for error is going to be slim.
Hopefully he'll flash enough to convince Gibbs that he can be the QB to take this team to the next level. It's hard to imagine him playing any worse than Brunell has, that's for sure.
I hope Ramsey works out. However you seem to be preparing a ready made excuse in case he does not do well. He has had plenty of time running this offense. All the QB schools this summer, the entire training camp and preseason. Lets not kid ourselves, if Ramsey is not ready by now, it is his own fault. You make it sound like he has not taken snap in months. He gets plenty of work in practice.
irish 11-15-2004, 12:39 PM Exactly Defense. Every week on Channel 4 in Dc both gibbs & bugel say that PR needs to show them more in practice and because of that he is not the starter. If PR cant do it in practice then he will never do it in game time.
PR does have the physical skills (so did Jeff George) but as I have read various reports in the papers that quote defense players in the nfl saying that PR cant "see" the field. A QB can have all the physical skiil in the world but if he can see the field than those skills are moot. I'm just not sure vision can be taught in summer QB camp. The skins are in big trouble at the QB position.
4TH RING 11-15-2004, 01:00 PM As long as the offensive line can protect him, Ramsey is going to be alright. He has the arm to make all the throws and now that he's starting the experience is only going to make him better. His only drawback is his immobility, but there are a lot of good QB's out there that still perform while having to deal with this issue.
JWsleep 11-15-2004, 01:25 PM I voted Ramsey out of pure despair. But I don't know...
I hope Ramsey works out. However you seem to be preparing a ready made excuse in case he does not do well. He has had plenty of time running this offense. All the QB schools this summer, the entire training camp and preseason. Lets not kid ourselves, if Ramsey is not ready by now, it is his own fault. You make it sound like he has not taken snap in months. He gets plenty of work in practice.
I'm not making excuses for him I'm just saying don't be surprised if he struggles a bit. Gibbs put all of his eggs in one basket with Brunell this year, Ramsey has been left on the shelf for the most part.
As for him getting plenty of work in practice I guess that's true if you consider 10% of the snaps and running the practice squad a lot of work.
Let him work as the starter for a few weeks and we'll see where he stands. Something tells me he'll be much better off with more work with the first team.
Gmanc711 11-15-2004, 01:41 PM I'm not going to judge Ramsey until he has had time to start at least four games (Phi,Pit,NYG,Phi), even then I might give him more time cause those are really tough games. Were throwing this guy right into the fire...
I'm not going to judge Ramsey until he has had time to start at least four games (Phi,Pit,NYG,Phi), even then I might give him more time cause those are really tough games. Were throwing this guy right into the fire...
I agree, if we can come out of that stretch with 2 wins it will be a positive.
Ramsey isn't being put in to an ideal situation here. Not only is the schedule tough, but he's not exactly taking over an offense that's firing on all cylinders right now.
wait and see how Ramsey does the rest of the way. If he struggles, I would think about Brees, but with so much money sunk into Brunell, I'm not sure they would be able to sign him.
htownskinfan 11-15-2004, 02:02 PM I picked Ramsey because there is no other choice,Gibbs Fcked us for next yr and probably the yr after with the money thrown at Brunell,the only way I dont see Ramsey starting is injury or trade
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