ARE: "Zorn never had a real chance"

This is another classic case of finger pointing, when you should look no further than the mirror. ARE and Zorn, both good guys.

The one thing in common they both share. Neither one did a notable job for the REDSKINS, underachievers. In Zorns case had way to much on his plate from the day old bug eyes/Dan promoted him to Head Coach before he spent a week trying to figure out how he was going to do the job he was hired to do in the first place.

Good luck, but VERY glad both are gone.


well said, i totally agree.

I think its partially true.
Zorn had too much on his plate from the start so any lack of support or meddling from the Owner or his minion Vinny C was a recipe for what we saw.

Zorn was a 1st time HC who had never been an NFL OC, his OC was also a 1st timer from a different scheme so Zorn was the defacto OC and had to create an entire playbook from scratch, with QB coach was a 1st timer from Div III St.Olaf so Zorn was the defacto QB coach.

Is any of the above Synder's fault?

Its debateable.

But, one thing i noticed is that the RZ playcalling improved drastically and Jason Campbell finished as one of the better RZ QBs in the league when Sherman Lewis took the other playcalling duties off Zorn's plate but guess who remained the RZ playcaller?
Yep, the very same Jim Zorn.

ARE sucks donkey balls.

I think its partially true.
Zorn had too much on his plate from the start so any lack of support or meddling from the Owner or his minion Vinny C was a recipe for what we saw.

Zorn was a 1st time HC who had never been an NFL OC, his OC was also a 1st timer from a different scheme so Zorn was the defacto OC and had to create an entire playbook from scratch, with QB coach was a 1st timer from Div III St.Olaf so Zorn was the defacto QB coach.

Is any of the above Synder's fault?

Its debateable.

But, one thing i noticed is that the RZ playcalling improved drastically and Jason Campbell finished as one of the better RZ QBs in the league when Sherman Lewis took the other playcalling duties off Zorn's plate but guess who remained the RZ playcaller?
Yep, the very same Jim Zorn.

Debatable, how so? The man writes the checks and owns the team. Of course it's his fault. No matter what bug eyes said or didn't say as far as hiring decisions Dan has to take full responsibility for the mistake as he agreed or Zorn would have never been the Head Coach. After 1000 hours of interviews, nights on the town, fine meals, sleep overs and cuddling at the mansion, Dan has final say so in this matter.

And you must have had the only head set on, that worked. After that circus act "called football around week 6", I bet there isn't a living ass that could tell you who was calling plays in the RedZone, including the entire team. Due to the fact that everyone involved with the Redskins org./coaching staff/players appeared to be totally clueless for the last 10 weeks of the 2009 season it's all in the record books.

Of course he didn't have a chance. He shouldn't have been a HC in the first place. The Zorn hire can be blamed on Snyder though. The reason he got stuck hiring Zorn was his personality and crazy Steinbrenneresque FO management style. Couldn't get a serious HC if they didn't want to become the next lame duck HC. I like what has transpired the last 8 months, but DS can still take back the reins whenever he likes.

Debatable, how so? The man writes the checks and owns the team. Of course it's his fault. No matter what bug eyes said or didn't say as far as hiring decisions Dan has to take full responsibility for the mistake as he agreed or Zorn would have never been the Head Coach. After 1000 hours of interviews, nights on the town, fine meals, sleep overs and cuddling at the mansion, Dan has final say so in this matter.

And you must have had the only head set on, that worked. After that circus act "called football around week 6", I bet there isn't a living ass that could tell you who was calling plays in the RedZone, including the entire team. Due to the fact that everyone involved with the Redskins org./coaching staff/players appeared to be totally clueless for the last 10 weeks of the 2009 season it's all in the record books.


If Dan wasn't a Steinbrenner wannabe, Zorn would have never been hired.

I'm so done with last year. Bring on training camp!

I also remember after Gibbs left, ARE said that Gibbs held the team back as well. So anyway, this isn't meant to bash Randle El. Just saying that he seems to have a lot to discuss, but perhaps not much to really say.

Anyhow, what's done is done. Good luck to Zorn in Baltimore, Randle El in Pittsburgh, and Hail to the Redskins!

ARE was always a joker when it came to his time here in DC. Never seemed to take it seriously and was such a HAM to the camera all the time.

He is the ultimate when it came to "Player Speak".

For those of you detracting Zorn as incompetent and only a QB coach be reminded who appointed him as a head coach.

Snyder's meddling did appoint a highly inexperienced coach to make an ass of himself on national television. Head coach should be a selection performed by a capable GM and not someone as inept at competitive football as Dan Snyder.

Like it or not, Zorn's huge shortcomings are directly reflected on Snyder's hands on meddling.



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Dan hired Zorn at the recomendation of Vinny Cerato. You can't put it all on Dan.