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Beemnseven 11-18-2004, 11:02 AM Gardiner is signed through 2005, when his cap number will be about 2 mill. If we trade him, the cap hit will be negligable.
Also, I'm sure there is some team that saw the highlight reel catches that would be willing to gamble a 4th on him.
Also, considering the contract they signed Coles to last year, I would say they are not in the market for another receiver. It just isn't financially feasible.
Fair enough, I stand corrected on Gardner's contract. If we could get a 3rd or 4th for him, that would be wonderful. Hopefully some other team will overpay for Gardner similar to how we overpaid for Brunell and Portis.
I still say though, that regardless of who the QB is, our receiving corps won't be up to snuff with or without Rod Gardner. In this league today, unless you're the Patriots, you simply cannot get anywhere if you don't have at least one top notch wideout that is ranked somewhere in the top 5 or 7 in the NFL.
So far, nobody on the Redskins roster, including Laveranues Coles, belongs in the Top Ten of wide receivers in the NFL.
diehardskin2982 11-18-2004, 11:03 AM Either way both are staying in Washington. Gardner has done well this season even with Brunnel at helm, and is a Gibbs Favorite. Samuels has underachieved but he is on one of the most brilliant Tackle tandems in the league. Only I see samuels going is if we steal someone better like orlando pace. We'll get a good first round and spent the other pics between the offensive and defensive line.
I personally like our current group of WR's, especially now that Ramsey is playing I think we'll start to see what they can really do.
Coles just isn't 100%, but his real problem is he feels pain when he has to start and stop, but he's said that he's fine running straight ahead. Translation? He needs a QB that can hit him in stride for him to be effective, which Ramsey can do.
Gardner got off to a hot start but has cooled down, but how can you stay hot with someone like Brunell at QB? With Ramsey in there we should see more production out of Gardner just like Coles.
McCants seems to be the real darkhorse here, he seems to have a nice rapport and comfort level with Ramsey, and vice versa.
Thrash isn't much of a threat at WR but he's nice for depth and special teams of course. Jacobs has been praised by the coaches for his work ethic and he should continue to grow and develop under this staff.
I really don't see much room to bring in anyone next year, but we'll see.
Redskins_P 11-18-2004, 12:55 PM We should've traded Cliff Russell for a 1st round pick! :Smoker:
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 11-18-2004, 01:44 PM Our recieving corps is just fine. Other than T.O., Moss, Ward and Harrison, I can't think of any recievers who are better than Coles.
Gardner is one of the best #2 WRs in the league.
Jacobs, McCants, and Thrash are top notch #3s.
WR is the absolute LEAST of our worries. I'm far more concerned about the O-line and D-line than anything else. Jansen's return will help our O-line considerably and our D-line isn't getting pressure but is doing pretty well.
We need time to gel and make sure Ramsey is our man (I'm convinced he is).
We should've traded Cliff Russell for a 1st round pick! :Smoker:
Sultan McCullough too :Smoker:
Beemnseven 11-18-2004, 03:47 PM Our recieving corps is just fine. Other than T.O., Moss, Ward and Harrison, I can't think of any recievers who are better than Coles.
Torry Holt? Issac Bruce? Javon Walker? Chad Johnson? Those guys are easily better than Laveranues Coles is. Even #2 WRs like Reggie Wayne and Donald Driver are on their way up. To me, even though he's banged up, Coles may have already peaked and is starting to level off. Unfortunately, he's the best we've got.
That Guy 11-18-2004, 03:52 PM LC was #7 in yards last year (even with the injury) i think... as for WR that are as good or better right now... ward, TO, moss, harrison, CJ, AJ, RW, holt, bruce (old though), boldin, probably smart... i'm fine with coles though, but i wish he was 100% (he should probably take the surgery... i know its easy for me to say that since its not my career, but he could be top 5 if healthy for all 16 games).
itvnetop 11-18-2004, 07:09 PM If we need a receiver (enter my SC homerism), look no further than Mike Williams. This guy will change the dimension of our offense, and he'll catch anything Ramsey tosses in his general vicinity.
Gmanc711 11-18-2004, 07:29 PM If we need a receiver (enter my SC homerism), look no further than Mike Williams. This guy will change the dimension of our offense, and he'll catch anything Ramsey tosses in his general vicinity.
As much as we have other needs for this draft, if he's around, Mike Williams might be the best pick. He would do alot for our offense.
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