tryfuhl
08-18-2010, 02:22 PM
greatly exceeding the speed of surrounding vehicles isn't reckless?
no doubt that scooter guy should've made sure he could secure his position in the lane though
JoeRedskin
08-18-2010, 02:26 PM
Didn't appear he was "greatly exceeding" from my point of view. He was accelerating after traffic slowed down for the accident.
But don't take my word on it - I just do auto torts as part of my job. Not like I have any experience in it.
It was the scooter-guys fault.
The guy in the car seemed to be going a little fast for the right lane, but the scooter dude obviously wasn't careful enough when changing lanes. Still, seems that there was enough time to slow down to avoid hitting him.
tryfuhl
08-18-2010, 02:30 PM
Alright, we'll agree to disagree that he was greatly exceeding the speed of surrounding traffic. And ultimately yes it is scooter guy's fault by law. No need to continue to get salty and hrrumph about things man.
Didn't appear he was "greatly exceeding" from my point of view. He was accelerating after traffic slowed down for the accident.
But don't take my word on it - I just do auto torts as part of my job. Not like I have any experience in it.
It was the scooter-guys fault.
100% though?
I've got my no-fault hat on, thinking that the driver had more than enough time to slow down to avoid hitting him. Scooter guy is more to blame, but not 100%.
tryfuhl
08-18-2010, 02:35 PM
I mean who tapes just regular driving? They were clearly camming their driving behavior for good or bad. It's pretty common to see these types of vids, the approach to the greater mass of traffic while leaving the others in the dust is somewhat damning.
I need to rewatch to see if scooter guy hit his brakes because it almost seems as if he did.
I mean who tapes just regular driving? They were clearly camming their driving behavior for good or bad. It's pretty common to see these types of vids, the approach to the greater mass of traffic while leaving the others in the dust is somewhat damning.
I need to rewatch to see if scooter guy hit his brakes because it almost seems as if he did.
Yeah scooter guy does hit his breaks right before he gets hit. Could be staged.
tryfuhl
08-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Yeah scooter guy does hit his breaks right before he gets hit. Could be staged.
I don't know if I'd be quick to call it staged.. but definitely a bone-headed reaction
I don't know if I'd be quick to call it staged.. but definitely a bone-headed reaction
Yep could easily be that too
JoeRedskin
08-18-2010, 02:44 PM
Watched it several times, I still think this is all on scooter guy. The car is just not going that fast - listen to the gear shift. It happens only once, meaning he is in 3rd or 4th gear given how slow he was going through the accident zone. He passed a couple trucks and a bus, but they wouldn't accelerate as fast as anyway. Scooter-guy was moving around (after tail-gating actually) a slow moving car.
The driver also was clearly braking as soon as scooter guy moved over AND came to a stop quickly. Watch, from the time scooter guy moves over to complete stop is less than two light poles. If the driver had been going at a "reckless speed", scooter guy would have been under his car before coming to a stop.
Scooter guy didn't signal, and cut off a car that had the right of way. The more I watched it, the more clear it was scooter guy at fault all the way.