This Has Got To Burn You Up!!!!

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MTK
11-21-2004, 07:44 PM
yeh it is impressive esp. since its ARZ.
Over the past 12 years we haven't been much better than Arizona.

MTK
11-21-2004, 07:47 PM
Gibbs will get it and will take us back to the playoffs. BUT, I'm sick and tired of people giving him a free-pass. In my mind, he is as open to criticism as anyone. Our talent is fine. Our playcalling stinks. Gibbs will turn it around, I just want to know when. I haven't seen any improvements in our offense (which is supposed to be Gibbs' realm).
I'm not giving him a free pass, but what gets tiring to me is always blaming him for the team struggling and giving the players free passes.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the execution was downright horrible today. 12 penalties (especially in the redzone), drops, mental errors, etc.

Yes the coaches deserve some blame, but let's not forget it's the players that have to go out there and perform.

Gmanc711
11-21-2004, 08:01 PM
Agreed Matty. The Coaches defintley deserve some of the blame, and so do the players.

MTK
11-21-2004, 10:05 PM
Last year I said the same thing. I thought there were many times where the coaches were getting unfairly grilled when the players and their lack of execution was more to blame.

More often than not though, I thought last year boiled down to a coaching problem.

This year while I agree coaching has been to blame at times, I feel that the players have let us down quite a bit and we've also been killed by some things we can't always control, like injuries and bad officiating.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
11-21-2004, 10:16 PM
The injuries have hurt us a bit. Most of our injuries have affected our defense, which, thankfully, is still very good.

The penalties cost us a game (Dallas), but they're not a main reason for our woes.

The players (i.e. Brunell) have hurt us quite a bit. BUT, for me, it's difficult to separate the players from the coaches. Ultimately, the coaches share a lot of the blame for the players' mistakes.

What made Gibbs so fanatastic is that he was a people person and was able to maximize the team's talent. He hasn't been able to do that yet. Our talent should put us around a 6-4 record, but our record is 3-7.

So, the coaching staff deserves some of the blame for poor play.

skinsguy
11-21-2004, 10:23 PM
Your right, the players have hurt us quite a bit! If the QBs (Brunell and yes RAMSEY as well) could have been more accurate and if the receivers could catch some passes...like the ones that happen to hit them between the numbers....

It comes down to the players making the plays....

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