FRPLG
09-01-2010, 11:27 AM
Absolutely not.
They're BOTH players unlikely to make rosters of either team...so why not accuse the Rams also?
If Morris gets cut...both teams end up even...no compensatory picks OR acquired players.
The NFLPA doesn't care about teams ending up even. Maybe the NFL does but the players don't. The NFLPA cares that rules governing the compensation of their players are followed. If the two teams engaged in a sham trade to deny certain players their duly earned compensation, via the CBA, then the NFLPA is going to make an issue of it.
Schneed10
09-01-2010, 11:29 AM
Pretty compelling evidence against the Skins and Rams here, given that there was apparently no on-the-field motivation for the trades.
A slap on the wrist is probably in order.
BigHairedAristocrat
09-01-2010, 11:38 AM
whether or not the rules were followed isnt even an issue here - what the skins and the rams did is allowed within the rules of the contract the NFLPA negotiated with the league.
I dont understand what, exactly, the NFLPA is expecting to happen here. really, all this will result in is the NFLPA wanting to close this loophole in the next CBA, and the league refusing to do so unless the NFLPA makes a concession. I would not be surprised at all if this whole thing was orchestrated to exploit a loophole the NFLPA didnt even know existed.
Kudos to the Redskins and Rams for giving the league extra leverage.
SmootSmack
09-01-2010, 11:53 AM
Thread title isn't.
:doh: :stop: :Smoker:
Longtimefan
09-01-2010, 11:55 AM
Shades of GA revisited. No one manipulates DP's like the Allen's.
SmootSmack
09-01-2010, 11:55 AM
Pretty compelling evidence against the Skins and Rams here, given that there was apparently no on-the-field motivation for the trades.
A slap on the wrist is probably in order.
Agreed
FRPLG
09-01-2010, 12:30 PM
whether or not the rules were followed isnt even an issue here - what the skins and the rams did is allowed within the rules of the contract the NFLPA negotiated with the league.
I dont understand what, exactly, the NFLPA is expecting to happen here. really, all this will result in is the NFLPA wanting to close this loophole in the next CBA, and the league refusing to do so unless the NFLPA makes a concession. I would not be surprised at all if this whole thing was orchestrated to exploit a loophole the NFLPA didnt even know existed.
Kudos to the Redskins and Rams for giving the league extra leverage.
If you conspire to circumvent a provision of the CBA you're gonna have problems. While it may have been technically following the letter of the law, the arbitrator, who would undoubtedly be employed in a dispute, doesn't have to really care about technicalities. He can rule according to the spirit of the rule. The teams could definitely lose on this if they did indeed engage in shadiness. SS and Schneed are probably correct. A slap on the wrist may be in order.
Schneed10
09-01-2010, 12:52 PM
Trading players just to cut them and avoid paying a portion of their salary is blatant mistreatment of the player and sure to anger the NFLPA. It's not gaining leverage in a negotiation, it's creating more animosity at the negotiating table.
And don't misunderstand, the Rams and Redskins were not collaborating to take some sort of negotiating tactic against the NFLPA. They were simply trying to save some money.
It sucks to do that at a player's expense; when a guy gets traded he's apprehensive about moving to a new situation, but also eager to impress his new coaches and earn his way onto the roster. To make a move with no intention of considering a guy for a roster spot is a blatant disregard for respecting players and their families.
FRPLG
09-01-2010, 12:54 PM
Trading players just to cut them and avoid paying a portion of their salary is blatant mistreatment of the player and sure to anger the NFLPA. It's not gaining leverage in a negotiation, it's creating more animosity at the negotiating table.
And don't misunderstand, the Rams and Redskins were not collaborating to take some sort of negotiating tactic against the NFLPA. They were simply trying to save some money.
It sucks to do that at a player's expense; when a guy gets traded he's apprehensive about moving to a new situation, but also eager to impress his new coaches and earn his way onto the roster. To make a move with no intention of considering a guy for a roster spot is a blatant disregard for respecting players and their families.
Which is why I bet the NFL puts an end to this practice.
CRedskinsRule
09-01-2010, 12:59 PM
could the nfl simply void the trades?