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sportscurmudgeon 11-29-2010, 01:53 PM Maybe your expectations are a little high for a team that was just 4-12 a season ago? A lot of people on here expect quite a bit of stuff that is really unrealistic. This team will do well to be .500, which will be a big improvement from a year ago. If they wind up going 9-7, I will be extremely impressed.
We may have the talent, but does the talent have the football smarts to become a better team? So many times, we're dumbfounded at the fact that this team always seems to underachieve when they need the wins the most. Almost to the point to where we expect them to make the mistakes and foolish penalties that cost the Redskins victories. That comes from players who just don't seem to have the high football IQ that the elite players have. Don't get me wrong, the Redskins have the playmakers who have the football IQ needed to win, but they're overshadowed by those who just don't have it.
If football was completely physical, there would be no reason why the Redskins couldn't win the Super Bowl with the talent they have on the team. But, football is just as much mental (if not much more) than physical, and that is where you separate the good teams from the bad teams, elite teams from the good teams. Look at the Redskins teams from the glory years. I believe wholeheartedly that those teams in the 80's and early 90's were champions because the majority of the players on those teams had high football IQs. I think that is why Gibbs was successful with your average "joe" players. He got smart players on his team even though they were not always the most talented team on the field.
For this version of the Redskins to remotely resemble those teams of the 80's, we need more high football IQ players who can work together to make the team better. And, it starts up front. The hogs of the 80's were smart players and worked very well together. That is probably at least 70% of the reason why those teams of the 80's won on a consistent basis.
Until Mike, Kyle, and Jim can get the right players together, I am not really expecting much more than .500 from this team.
Sorry to disagree here, but the physical talent on this team is a light-eyar away from being a Super Bowl winner.
90% of the offensive lines in the NFL are better than this one.
75% of the WR corps in the NFL are better than this one.
The running backs - - even when every one of them is fully healthy - - are ordinary at best.
The defensive line is mediocre.
Purely on physical talent, this team will overachieve if it finishes 8-8.
over the mountain 11-29-2010, 02:01 PM I like what we have seen from the offensive side of the ball. man, defense couldnt get off the field yesterday.
SouperMeister 11-29-2010, 02:02 PM Sorry to disagree here, but the physical talent on this team is a light-eyar away from being a Super Bowl winner.
90% of the offensive lines in the NFL are better than this one.
75% of the WR corps in the NFL are better than this one.
The running backs - - even when every one of them is fully healthy - - are ordinary at best.
The defensive line is mediocre.
Purely on physical talent, this team will overachieve if it finishes 8-8.I totally agree. The FO has overrated our talent for years, always marketing the team as if the latest draft pick or big free agent signing will put us over the top. Until the FO gets real about building something lasting, the best we can ever hope for is to squeak into the post-season as a #6 seed. It all starts with addressing the O-line IMO.
Chico23231 11-29-2010, 02:11 PM Maybe your expectations are a little high for a team that was just 4-12 a season ago? A lot of people on here expect quite a bit of stuff that is really unrealistic. This team will do well to be .500, which will be a big improvement from a year ago. If they wind up going 9-7, I will be extremely impressed.
We may have the talent, but does the talent have the football smarts to become a better team? So many times, we're dumbfounded at the fact that this team always seems to underachieve when they need the wins the most. Almost to the point to where we expect them to make the mistakes and foolish penalties that cost the Redskins victories. That comes from players who just don't seem to have the high football IQ that the elite players have. Don't get me wrong, the Redskins have the playmakers who have the football IQ needed to win, but they're overshadowed by those who just don't have it.
If football was completely physical, there would be no reason why the Redskins couldn't win the Super Bowl with the talent they have on the team. But, football is just as much mental (if not much more) than physical, and that is where you separate the good teams from the bad teams, elite teams from the good teams. Look at the Redskins teams from the glory years. I believe wholeheartedly that those teams in the 80's and early 90's were champions because the majority of the players on those teams had high football IQs. I think that is why Gibbs was successful with your average "joe" players. He got smart players on his team even though they were not always the most talented team on the field.
For this version of the Redskins to remotely resemble those teams of the 80's, we need more high football IQ players who can work together to make the team better. And, it starts up front. The hogs of the 80's were smart players and worked very well together. That is probably at least 70% of the reason why those teams of the 80's won on a consistent basis.
Until Mike, Kyle, and Jim can get the right players together, I am not really expecting much more than .500 from this team.
Good post...I gotta disagree with the talent, i think we are pretty average with starters, but lack good depth. I dont think Im asking too much with just seeing some improvement with the offense...I see it in 3rd downs situations and I see it with the play of individuals (K Williams and Armstrong) and even some playcalling, but I still see many errors on O, D and the killer which was the block on special teams. Your right about finding guys to work together as team, its a learning curve for sure...like I said, this year seems to hold more opportunity than the past for average teams, like ours, to be able to get in the mix. Look at Tampa or Chicago this year, they're taking advantage of it. Why not us? Im not writing us off, but man that loss really hurt. I predicted 8-8 for us...9-7 could get us in the playoffs. Now that woulda impressed me.
skinsguy 11-29-2010, 02:57 PM Good post...I gotta disagree with the talent, i think we are pretty average with starters, but lack good depth. I dont think Im asking too much with just seeing some improvement with the offense...I see it in 3rd downs situations and I see it with the play of individuals (K Williams and Armstrong) and even some playcalling, but I still see many errors on O, D and the killer which was the block on special teams. Your right about finding guys to work together as team, its a learning curve for sure...like I said, this year seems to hold more opportunity than the past for average teams, like ours, to be able to get in the mix. Look at Tampa or Chicago this year, they're taking advantage of it. Why not us? Im not writing us off, but man that loss really hurt. I predicted 8-8 for us...9-7 could get us in the playoffs. Now that woulda impressed me.
I think we have better than average talent in the starting positions, but not every starting position. And, like you said, we don't have the depth. This is something I truly believe MS will address in the seasons to come, because he's been known to draft for depth.
What I hope to see happening is for our young guys to continue to work hard and improve. Guys like Brandon Banks, Fred Davis, Brian Orakpo, Trent Williams, and Anthony Armstrong are prime examples of what the 'skins should be looking for. We can also throw in Laron Landry as well, but I'm really talking about our first and second year players (I know that Fred Davis is technically in his third year.) These guys appear to be working hard and it's showing on the field. Not saying the other guys don't put forth the effort, but when you have guys who others would think would be long shots (Anthony Armstrong, Brandon Banks,) make it and produce in the NFL, that is the talent you want to build your team around. Those types of guys are the ones who are hungry and will give it 110%.
But in addition to that, we also need players who have high football IQs. Peyton Manning isn't necessarily the best athlete to ever step out on a football field, but he's one of the smartest, which makes him an elite player. That's what we need, young, hungry players who have high football IQs. That's what turns teams into champions.
Zorny 11-29-2010, 07:56 PM Who is the rookie or journeyman player on the Giants that is going to dominate the skins this week? Over/Under 6, the number of sacks the skins will give up. Could be skins point total also...
CrazyCanuck 11-29-2010, 09:07 PM Sorry to disagree here, but the physical talent on this team is a light-eyar away from being a Super Bowl winner.
90% of the offensive lines in the NFL are better than this one.
75% of the WR corps in the NFL are better than this one.
The running backs - - even when every one of them is fully healthy - - are ordinary at best.
The defensive line is mediocre.
Purely on physical talent, this team will overachieve if it finishes 8-8.
Thank you. :goodjob:
SirClintonPortis 11-29-2010, 10:24 PM Who is the rookie or journeyman player on the Giants that is going to dominate the skins this week? Over/Under 6, the number of sacks the skins will give up. Could be skins point total also...
Victor Cruz?
mooby 11-30-2010, 08:49 PM Victor Cruz?
Too bad they put him on injured reserve at the start of the season, so he will most likely be watching the game from a suite or standing on the sideline cheering Derek Hagan and Mario Manningham, and not on the field ripping our defense up like "Zorny" predicted.
Dirtbag59 11-30-2010, 09:15 PM Who is the rookie or journeyman player on the Giants that is going to dominate the skins this week? Over/Under 6, the number of sacks the skins will give up. Could be skins point total also...
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