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skinster 12-08-2010, 05:06 PM Actually, nobody will probably trade for him because they know we are going to cut him. There's no chance Haynesworth is on the roster next season. Why would you give up a draft pick for somebody who you know will be a free agent? That's why we will probably see Haynesworth cut.
And I wouldn't be too suprised if the Redskins upgraded their line through the 2nd round of the draft/free agency, and spent our first rounder on our qb of the future. This draft is going to have plenty of good quarterbacks available in it and I wouldn't be suprised to see the Redskins nab one if he's available.
People will trade for him because they want to obtain his rights. In FA he gets to go wherever he wants. When we own his rights and two teams want him, one will be willing to give out a late round pick to make sure they get his rights.
Also we can hold onto him for as long as we want. He wont show up to the team facilities. If a team wants him for training camp, they will trade for him.
mooby 12-08-2010, 07:37 PM People will trade for him because they want to obtain his rights. In FA he gets to go wherever he wants. When we own his rights and two teams want him, one will be willing to give out a late round pick to make sure they get his rights.
Also we can hold onto him for as long as we want. He wont show up to the team facilities. If a team wants him for training camp, they will trade for him.
Or people will wait until he's a free agent so all they have to do is give him a contract, not absorb his huge ass contract while giving up draft picks in the process. In order to trade a player he has to have value. Haynesworth has destroyed his own value this season. Wherever he goes, he's going to have to prove himself again, and I don't think a team will want him bad enough to give up a good draft pick for him.
skinster 12-08-2010, 11:39 PM Or people will wait until he's a free agent so all they have to do is give him a contract, not absorb his huge ass contract while giving up draft picks in the process. In order to trade a player he has to have value. Haynesworth has destroyed his own value this season. Wherever he goes, he's going to have to prove himself again, and I don't think a team will want him bad enough to give up a good draft pick for him.
The moment he is traded, the team that gets him owes him zero dollars in guaranteed money. His contract will not be that big anymore. And you completely ignored what I said about the reason why a team would trade for him. They would do it so that they could guarantee that they have his rights. If he hits free agency lets say 4 teams show any interest; each team only has a .25 chance at landing him as opposed to the 100% they would have at landing him if they trade a late round pick for him. His potential to take over games is something teams salivate over (look to the bears game), and there has to be multiple teams out there that are willing to roll the dice on him. My point cant be invalid considering that he is not cut yet, so at least Shanny agrees with me.
Shadowbyte 12-09-2010, 12:02 AM IMO it's better to draft the best player on the board at the time you pick. I liked the approach that Dennis Green took when he was rebuilding the Cardinals. He took the best players available, eventhough he wasn't around to see the fruits of his labor, the team he built eventually made it to the Superbowl.
IRISHSKIN24 12-09-2010, 02:14 AM As long as we get a CENTER I WILL BE ECSTATIC!...rabach is probably a knowledgeable player, BUT he just gets shown up every game! we need someone with talent and knowledge at the position
SirClintonPortis 12-09-2010, 03:26 AM As long as we get a CENTER I WILL BE ECSTATIC!...rabach is probably a knowledgeable player, BUT he just gets shown up every game! we need someone with talent and knowledge at the position
Both Montgomery and Lichtensteiger are natural centers playing guard. From that, I think it's clear that guard is our biggest o-line problem.
Texanskin 12-09-2010, 05:34 AM I don't believe we should just draft OL? For what? To say we drafted offensive linemen? That seems pretty counterproductive to me.
we have never done this...so why not?? We have ALWAYS drafted the BPA....look at where THAT has gotten us......new coach...new draftng philosophy. Every good team wins in the trenches late in the season. As fans, we have to stop thinking skill players are the foundation.....do yall remember the HOGS????
SirClintonPortis 12-09-2010, 06:13 AM we have never done this...so why not?? We have ALWAYS drafted the BPA....look at where THAT has gotten us......new coach...new draftng philosophy. Every good team wins in the trenches late in the season. As fans, we have to stop thinking skill players are the foundation.....do yall remember the HOGS????
No, we drafted with a strange emphasis on skill positions and late-round LBs and safeties. We also drafted for "need" because "big #1 WR" was a need then. Remember that James ****ing Thrash was our #3 behind the terribly overpaid ARE.
Also, we didn't spend 4 1st and 2nd rounders on the hogs. Some of them came through UDFA, but I suppose it was an era where scouting the really late rounds was considered "not worth it", so talent was more likely to fall then.
drew54 12-11-2010, 12:50 PM No, drafting all OL would not be practical. I want to turn this subject around. I think should only draft defense. Here is why.
The tackle position is set with Williams and Brown. Lets say Davin Joseph is signed.
Mike Williams returns to try and win back his spot at guard vs Hicks and Heyer. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery battle it out for Center.
At WR, Jacoby Jones is a FA in Houston and he should know the offense system. He would be an upgrade in size, also adding an extra return man for kickoffs. He is not having a great year in Houston, (but a better year than Joey Galloway + Roydell Williams is having) so he could come cheap. Also Kelly is a wild card. If there is no big name WR signed, it is safe to say the coaches have faith in him.
RB has been an issue this year mainly due to injuries. I think it is Torain's job to lose, Portis takes a pay cut and returns, along with the addition a Shanahan diamond in the rough.
TE and QB are set. Maybe a project QB is drafted, but that is currently Jon Beck's role.
So this brings us back to the draft. BPA at any position of DE, CB, LB, DT, & FS. Trading down should be utilized if grades are similar.
Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.
freddyg12 12-11-2010, 12:59 PM No, drafting all OL would not be practical. I want to turn this subject around. I think should only draft defense. Here is why.
The tackle position is set with Williams and Brown. Lets say Davin Joseph is signed.
Mike Williams returns to try and win back his spot at guard vs Hicks and Heyer. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery battle it out for Center.
At WR, Jacoby Jones is a FA in Houston and he should know the offense system. He would be an upgrade in size, also adding an extra return man for kickoffs. He is not having a great year in Houston, (but a better year than Joey Galloway + Roydell Williams is having) so he could come cheap. Also Kelly is a wild card. If there is no big name WR signed, it is safe to say the coaches have faith in him.
RB has been an issue this year mainly due to injuries. I think Portis takes a pay cut and returns, along with the addition a Shanahan diamond in the rough.
TE and QB are set. Maybe a project QB is drafted, but that is currently Jon Beck's role.
So this brings us back to the draft. BPA at any position of DE, CB, LB, DT, & FS. Trading down should be utilized if grades are similar.
Then again, it will most likely be a mix of free agents and draft to fix the both sides of the ball. Some notable 3-4 FAs on D are:
DT: Haloti Ngata in Baltimore, Cullen Jenkins and Johnny Jolly in Green Bay.
LB: Tamba Hali - KC, Lamarr Woodley - Pittsburgh, Desmond Bishop - GB, David Harris- NYJ.
Good points. I would add that by season's end RB may not be determined by the staff as a high priority. I'm sure they would like to add a feature back, but this could turn out to be a decent 4 rb rotation; Torain & Davis as primary runners, CP & KW as 3rd down.
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