Your 2010 NFL MVP is?

Manning had a pretty rough stretch there where he threw a lot of picks. Yeah he's a one man gang right now and doing everything he can, and they would be garbage without him, but I just think there are guys that have clearly had better seasons.

Thats something that needs to be defined better, what are the criteria for an MVP?

Well, the award is the Most Valuable Player. Where are the Colts without Peyton Manning? Probably sitting on the #1 pick in the draft. While it's true Brady and Vick have had much better seasons, and that 3 week or so stretch where Manning was handing out souvenirs and pick sixes at an epic rate was hard to watch, Manning did what he had to to help his stay above water. While we can all agree that he will not win the MVP, there's really no debate there, I really don't see how there's much argument in that he's truly the most valuable offensive player in the NFL.
Now we could certainly make a strong argument for Troy Polamalu being the most valuable player in the NFL bar none, but I hate the Steelers way to much to make it.

Well, the award is the Most Valuable Player. Where are the Colts without Peyton Manning? Probably sitting on the #1 pick in the draft. While it's true Brady and Vick have had much better seasons, and that 3 week or so stretch where Manning was handing out souvenirs and pick sixes at an epic rate was hard to watch, Manning did what he had to to help his stay above water. While we can all agree that he will not win the MVP, there's really no debate there, I really don't see how there's much argument in that he's truly the most valuable offensive player in the NFL.
Now we could certainly make a strong argument for Troy Polamalu being the most valuable player in the NFL bar none, but I hate the Steelers way to much to make it.

Ok so for MVP we are to take the valuable in the most literal sense of the word? How valuable that specific player is? My concern with that is that you then have to take alot more into consideration. Things like who his back up is, what type of defense the team has (or offense if a defensive player ever wins again) what the offensive line is like, there are just too many things to take into consideration. I think it should go to the player who played at the highest level that year, and how many wins they would have lost without that player should be taken out of the equation.

Honestly, its probaboly Rivers... but since his team probably wont make the playoffs, ya gotta go with Vick. I mean as good as Brady is, the Pats are going to the playoffs regardless; thats where Brady earns his keep. I think you take Rivers or Vick off their teams, you see the biggest drop off, and thats how I like to figure out who the MVP is.

[/QUOTE]To be clear I am not a Mike Vick hatter. What he did was deplorable but he paid his price for it and acted like a man. One of my best friends growing up was his main receiver in college too, so I have some measure of love for him because of that. I am basing this based on the seasons that the two have had.[/QUOTE]


Was you your best friend Andre Davis? I grew up watching Vick in Blacksburg and since Vick was only there those 2 years I was seeing who your friend was and if he got to play in the National Championship with Vick

Honestly, its probaboly Rivers... but since his team probably wont make the playoffs, ya gotta go with Vick. I mean as good as Brady is, the Pats are going to the playoffs regardless; thats where Brady earns his keep. I think you take Rivers or Vick off their teams, you see the biggest drop off, and thats how I like to figure out who the MVP is.I'm not sure if the Pats are that good without Brady unless their backup QB is another Cassel or actually better than Cassel since R. Moss is no longer there. That said, I'm leaning just a bit towards Vick myself.

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Was you your best friend Andre Davis? I grew up watching Vick in Blacksburg and since Vick was only there those 2 years I was seeing who your friend was and if he got to play in the National Championship with Vick[/QUOTE]


Yes it was, I lived next door to him since I was 4 and played in highschool my other neighbor and I convinced him to play football instead of soccer his Junior year. Andre is by far and away the best overall person I have EVER met. Very forgiving very friendly and family orientated and would never hurt anyone.

Do you remember in the build up to the national championship game Peter Warrick said Andre who? when someone asked him about him. I always disliked Warrick for that and found it funny that Andre had a much longer career than Warrick.

id say vick. i dont like him and he plays for the eagles, but imo the eagles would be a sub .500 team without him.

Brady now at 34 TDs and 4 INTs. Amazing.

Why cant it be Co-MVP's? Brady/Vick both are worthy but Brady seems to have the edge but fans like Vick more and I think he did more in less time where Brady has played every snap.