Currently Rostered Players Who Should be on the Redskins in 2011

Is that a real stat if so where can I find it?It's not official, but the networks keep it and put it up during the games. It's also in the play by play.

I have 9 holds plus one illegal block in the back (functionally, a hold) on Orakpo this year. Haynesworth is second on our team with 3.

This isn't current, but it was accurate for the league as of Week 13:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2010 Hits and Hurries (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2010/2010-hits-and-hurries)

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

Considering they passed on them once already, don't see why they would be interested now.

We need to cut everybody besides:

London Fletcher
Brian Orakpo
DeAngelo Hall
LaRon Landry
Reed Doughty
Trent Williams
Ma'ake Kemoeatu
Anthony Armstrong
Santana Moss
Brandon Banks
Keiland Williams
Chris Cooley
Fred Davis
Lichtensteiger

Our Team officially is a joke these days.
This circus we call a franchise is making me sick.
Haynesworth/McNabb Trade+Benching?
We should pick up another talented player and just bench them too..
nobodys gonna wanna play here

So we would need to draft/sign 38 players? Actually way more than that to fill out a training camp roster. We CAN'T just dump everyone and try to start over, we dont have enough draft picks to do anything approaching this. Please do not give me the whole trade Haynesworth, DM and Cooley for draft picks. Out of those only Cooley would get us anything above a 4th.

This is going to take a few years to get right, and that is only if Shanny/Allen is the right duo to do this. If you aren't on board for that then that's fine, no one is saying you have to watch them rebuild. Feel free to hop off the bandwagon until they are good again. This mini rant is directed at you really either but at the mind set that we somehow need to be a playoff team next year.

As for a list of players we need to keep, I will leave that to the people who are far more familiar with the back up talent on this team than I am. Anyway thats my $.02

How does Orakpo not get any calls when Ware, Allen and Harrison get every holding call??? It's bull shit, I swear sometimes I think the refs just hate us.. I know that sounds dumb and like I'm a crybaby but cmon

I know -- it's infuriating. For the first time since the days of Dexter Manley and Charles Mann, we FINALLY get a bonafide pass rushing demon, but the guy gets held constantly and we rarely get the calls.

It's like we cannot f*cking win.

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

With Cerrato and X coach, yes. With Bruce and Shanny, nopers.

Does anybody think they will go out and get T.O or R.Moss. i wouldn't put it past them

I think at this point absolutely not. Id bring in Vincent Jackson or draft AJ Green and extend our own Moss which I think he would be a reasonable price. Moss and TO want top money...which is laughable IMO.

This guys should be on the roster for 2011:

Offense

QB-Grossman, Beck (trade McNabb)
RB-Williams, Torain, Davis, Portis (as a 3rd down back and reduced contract)
FB-Young
WR-Moss, Banks, Austin, Armstrong, Kelly
TE-Cooley, Paulsen (Trade Davis if possible)
OL-TWilliams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Heyer, Cook, MWilliams (if he can come back) Brown (if he can sign a reasonable contract) Capers.
LS-Sundberg or upgrade

Defense

DL-Bryant, Carriker, Golston, Rob Jackson, Jarmon Trade Haynesworth
LB- Orakpo, Alexander, Wilson, Riley, Fletcher, McIntosh, Helton, (trade Blades if possible)
S-Landry, Moore, Russell, Doughty, Horton
CB-Rogers, Barnes, Westbrook, (trade Hall while he has value being voted to pro-bowl and his big contract) Sign CBailey if possible.
K-Gano
P-find one

Here's who I want back from the intended direction of the thread (non free agents at their current contract rates):

Kevin Barnes
DeAngelo Hall
LaRon Landry
Brian Orakpo
Lorenzo Alexander
Anthony Bryant
Jeremy Jarmon
Adam Carriker
Graham Gano
Trent Williams
Kory Lichtensteiger
Will Montgomery
Artis Hicks
Chris Cooley
Fred Davis
Logan Paulsen
Anthony Armstrong
Brandon Banks
Ryan Torrain
Keiland Williams
Rob Jackson
Terrence Austin
Perry Riley
Mike Williams
Erik Cook
Selvish Capers
John Beck
Kareem Moore (as a backup)

I think it's time to move past the Portis era in DC. I don't know if Torrain is a 16 game starting RB or if we find someone to pair with him but I've seen enough to know that I'm good with him on the roster and rotation next year. People forget Mike Williams signed a 3 year contract extension before having to miss the season with his heart ailment. If they have that resolved, he could be a valuable piece of the OL as a G or backup T.

On the defensive side, I would be fine with a complete (other than Orakpo) overhaul of our LB corp. Fletcher isn't really suited for the 3-4 and McIntosh isn't either. Riley has shown some flashes both positive and negative but he goes full speed and will learn by experience. Our DL needs a revamp also but if we went into 2011 with Bryant and Carriker as 2 starters it wouldn't be the end of the world. In the secondary, bring back Hall and Landry (from this list) and fill in the rest. I've got 28 coming back, only 2 (Bryant & M. Williams) 30 or older.

Here's who I want back from the intended direction of the thread (non free agents at their current contract rates):

Kevin Barnes
DeAngelo Hall
LaRon Landry
Brian Orakpo
Lorenzo Alexander
Anthony Bryant
Jeremy Jarmon
Adam Carriker
Graham Gano
Trent Williams
Kory Lichtensteiger
Will Montgomery
Artis Hicks
Chris Cooley
Fred Davis
Logan Paulsen
Anthony Armstrong
Brandon Banks
Ryan Torrain
Keiland Williams
Rob Jackson
Terrence Austin
Perry Riley
Mike Williams
Erik Cook
Selvish Capers
John Beck
Kareem Moore (as a backup)

I think it's time to move past the Portis era in DC. I don't know if Torrain is a 16 game starting RB or if we find someone to pair with him but I've seen enough to know that I'm good with him on the roster and rotation next year. People forget Mike Williams signed a 3 year contract extension before having to miss the season with his heart ailment. If they have that resolved, he could be a valuable piece of the OL as a G or backup T.

On the defensive side, I would be fine with a complete (other than Orakpo) overhaul of our LB corp. Fletcher isn't really suited for the 3-4 and McIntosh isn't either. Riley has shown some flashes both positive and negative but he goes full speed and will learn by experience. Our DL needs a revamp also but if we went into 2011 with Bryant and Carriker as 2 starters it wouldn't be the end of the world. In the secondary, bring back Hall and Landry (from this list) and fill in the rest. I've got 28 coming back, only 2 (Bryant & M. Williams) 30 or older.

So realistically how do you propose we fill 25 spots that have been cut to make our 53 man roster? I realize we need to purge a lot of the roster we currently have but making that many sweeping changes is absurd. We would be worse than we were this year.

When Raheem Morris overhauled the Bucs they released linebackers Derrick Brooks and Cato June, wide receivers Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard, and running back Warrick Dunn. All over the age of 30. At the time people crapped on the move saying they would have no leadership and veteran experience. We do need to cut a lot of the older players. But not just about EVERY player. Look at the Bucs now, making a playoff run...