Anyone like Blaine Gabbert, he just declared for the draft

Well would you rather have Brady or Vick?


Thats too hard of a comparison in my mind, they were drafted too far apart..... pure player wise though it would be a tough decision for me.

It just seems to me youre more likely to get your heart broke if you take a guy that has all the potential in the world but lacks the maturity to use it.

Sam Bradford, is now "guaranteed" 50million dollars. If i was his age and had that kind of money i dont know if i could be a football workaholic and focus all my attention on making sure i live up to my contract. I would most likely have acted like Russell or Leinart....

I also love Gabbert as a prospect. He has ideal size at 6-5 and around 240, he has a very strong, accurate arm, he is athletic, and he still has a lot of upside to his game. I think I'd take him at #10 but that may be just because I'm not that impressed with most of the top players in this year's NFL Draft.

In fainess to those who don't rate him as highly as we do, I'd have to admit that taking him at #10 would be a risk. Nevertheless, even if he would be a reach in the upper third of Round 1, I think that somebody is going to take that risk. That's because there are so many QB-starved teams in the NFL right now. I actually think he could go even higher than #10 because of the widespread need for QB's. Conversely, I think that trading down from #10 and still getting him would be highly unlikely.

Exactly, when you find your guy you go draft him... All this talk about BPA, but in reality that would put Cam Newton/Ryan Mallett ahead of him who both don't fit our scheme.. In fact Mallett would absolutely fail as a Shanahan QB.

I have no doubt in my mind that if Shanny takes the time to evaluate Gabbert, he'll see that he's the best option behind Luck.. The issue is that San Francisco, Buffalo, Arizona, and maybe even Cincinnati will see the same thing, but pick ahead of us.

This might even put us in a position to move up and take Nick Fairley.. Who is without a doubt one of the most dominant defensive lineman I've seen in years.

BTW Luck was born in DC, that would be bad ass for him to come home! HTTR

Yep, I knew that. His dad played at WV when in lived in Maryland and was a pretty good QB, nothing like his son, but still darn good. Just so you know, a lot of the experts are comparing Luck to Elway which they didn't with Bradford or Ryan.

I have nothing but respect for Luck, but I feel the comparison to Elway is lazy. It's based mainly on them both attending Stanford.

I have nothing but respect for Luck, but I feel the comparison to Elway is lazy. It's based mainly on them both attending Stanford.

Luck looks more like Ryan to me than Elway. Elway was about as heralded as could be...Luck is maybe one small notch below. Luck reminds me of Freeman a little too with his size and mobility. They are a similar package.

Luck and Elway is a bad comparison..

It may seem to easy to say Tom Brady is a better one, but really he is. Tom Brady is on top of everybody in the NFL right now, Andrew Luck is the equivalent in college. He handles the pocket flawlessly! His mobility when nobody is open is perfect, his play action roll out perfect, his deep ball perfect, his football IQ brilliant.. You just can't say anything negative about this guy other than his one performance that he looked human against Oregon (a la Brady vs. the Browns).

Andrew Luck will not be taken 1st overall because of a team desperate to sell some tickets and wants to take the best quarterback regardless of if he's a top 5 talent (Sanchez, I would argue Stafford). Andrew Luck will be taken because if he's anything short of a 5 time pro-bowler I think 70% of scouts would be shocked.

Luck looks more like Ryan to me than Elway. Elway was about as heralded as could be...Luck is maybe one small notch below. Luck reminds me of Freeman a little too with his size and mobility. They are a similar package.

Andrew Luck is three times the collegiate player Matt Ryan was. Josh Freeman is a big body guy who can just truck (prime McNabb), don't get me wrong he's a warrior.. but he's got absolutely nothing on Andrew Luck.

Luck and Elway may not play the same, but their talent as a quarterback coming out of Stanford isn't far off.

It excites me way too much to imagine Mike Shanahan with a young Andrew Luck ready to learn and take in everything he can from the guy who lead his idol to two super bowls. It really is too good to be true isn't it?

Luck and Elway is a bad comparison..

It may seem to easy to say Tom Brady is a better one, but really he is. Tom Brady is on top of everybody in the NFL right now, Andrew Luck is the equivalent in college. He handles the pocket flawlessly! His mobility when nobody is open is perfect, his play action roll out perfect, his deep ball perfect, his football IQ brilliant.. You just can't say anything negative about this guy other than his one performance that he looked human against Oregon (a la Brady vs. the Browns).

Andrew Luck will not be taken 1st overall because of a team desperate to sell some tickets and wants to take the best quarterback regardless of if he's a top 5 talent (Sanchez, I would argue Stafford). Andrew Luck will be taken because if he's anything short of a 5 time pro-bowler I think 70% of scouts would be shocked.

I don't agree with you in regards to your Matthew Stafford comparison. When he came out even though he wasn't regarded as the can't miss prospect of the next decade, he was widely regarded as the best quarterback in the draft and a no doubt top 5 pick. Nobody saw his injury issues coming, he didn't have much of an injury history coming out of college, what's happened to him in the NFL has just been unfortunate. I still think when healthy he can be a great quarterback in the NFL.

So i was thinking about something. Would you rather have a QB that seems like he has all the skill in the world, but maybe be lacking a little bit mentally or maturity wise. Or would you rather have a QB that is really smart and works extremely hard, but lacks when it comes to some of the physical demands desired of a NFL QB.

QB's coming out of college that seemed to have all the physical tools but lacked some of the mental stuff in my mind are Brett Farve (worked out), McNabb (worked out), Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf (didnt work out), Ben Roethlisberger (worked out).

QB's with the mental edge but lacking some physical characteristics would be Brady (more of a anomaly then anything), Chad Pennington (worked out in my mind), Drew Brees.

Obviously there are QBs that are deemed to have all the mental and physical tools coming out of college (Payton Manning, Matt Ryan) but they usually go number 1.

Then there are guys that grow up for whatever reason, Mike Vick being the prime example in my eyes. He was once lazy/immature, now he works hard and puts the mental and physical together.

So who would you rather take if you don’t have the option to pick a guy with all the physical and mental tools to get the job done? Im not completely sure but I would lean towards the hard worker/smart guy over a guy that has everything physical, especially if you want him to start for you within a year or 2.

We have in the past gone this way with Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Jeff George, Heath Shuler, Gus Forotte. This way does not work out in my mind, especially for the Redskins.
I want a Brady, Montana, Brees type of QB. I.E. uber smart with a burning desire to win, and smart enough to figure out how to. The will power and work ethic elevates this type of QB's game to Top notch even though he is of inferior athletic ability or physical stature.

We have in the past gone this way with Jason Campbell, Patrick Ramsey, Jeff George, Heath Shuler, Gus Forotte. This way does not work out in my mind, especially for the Redskins.
I want a Brady, Montana, Brees type of QB. I.E. uber smart with a burning desire to win, and smart enough to figure out how to. The will power and work ethic elevates this type of QB's game to Top notch even though he is of inferior athletic ability or physical stature.


Yeah i like hard wokers / smart football players a lot more then gifted athletes, espicially when it comes to the QB position. I just thought of Brian Brohm who is super smart, hard worker but cant get anything done. It might be a little early to write him off though.