What's the Bigger Problem?

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Daseal
12-13-2004, 07:35 AM
No, but when we ran plays our receivers caught the balls, for the most part Ramsey made good throws. You're not going to execute a perfect game, the penelties were bad. Remember, 50 yards of those penelties came on 1 play. Also, Holding happens on every single play. I feel the little dink passes don't get it done.

MTK
12-13-2004, 09:35 AM
You can't blame penalties on coaching, that's all in the execution category.

The Giants game was the perfect example of what happens when the players execute. It sure makes the playcalling look a lot better doesn't it? As a coach you can call a great game, but if the players don't execute the play to it's potential it's a waste.

The INT that ended the game wasn't a bad call, it was bad execution. Ramsey should have immediately checked down once he saw the coverage in the endzone. He should have only attempted that throw if Cooley was wide open, which he clearly wasn't. I have no problem with going for the throat in that situation, but Ramsey needs to pick his shots and he picked wrong.

Daseal, there's nothing wrong with having your TE/H-back block on the DE when the play is rolling to the opposite side. The problem was Ramsey held the ball too long and took a shot that he didn't need to take. He should have tossed the ball out of bounds once he rolled to the left and didn't see anyone. What I do have a problem with is when you leave your TE on the DE all game long straight up and that's your plan. It's two entirely different situations, apples and oranges.

Why do we have to keep going back to Spurrier anyway?? Haven't we beat this issue in to the ground already? Let it go man, Gibbs is our head coach and Spurrier is back to college ball.

irish
12-13-2004, 10:18 AM
I gotta pick execution because of the penalties. The playcalling seems bad because it has to be scaled back to match the skill level of the players that have to execute these plays but it is not as bad as it seems.

SmootSmack
12-13-2004, 11:46 AM
Why do we have to keep going back to Spurrier anyway?? Haven't we beat this issue in to the ground already? Let it go man, Gibbs is our head coach and Spurrier is back to college ball.

Amen! Preach on brother Matty!

EEich
12-13-2004, 12:08 PM
Wouldn't they be in a 1st and 15 situation because of poor execution?

its both, but i think the bigger problem is the play calling.

we are so conservative, once we get a 1st and 15yds, we are doomed.

memphisskin
12-13-2004, 04:47 PM
I'm going to have to go with playcalling, because you cannot call what happens when our defense is on the sidelines execution. Can I vote both?

One deep throw, which turned out to be one too many. How many runs for Portis in the 2nd half and WTF was that toss on 3rd and short? The only thing worse than the playcalling was the execution. And I think I have to apologize to Webster's dictionary for even referring to that showing as execution.

I'm with Matty, no more references to Spurrier. I fully expect Gibbs to get these guys to execute. Please someone tell me that Mike Sellers is on the cut list today.

Daseal
12-13-2004, 06:13 PM
Why do we have to keep going back to Spurrier anyway?? Haven't we beat this issue in to the ground already? Let it go man, Gibbs is our head coach and Spurrier is back to college ball.

Matty, we're going the same route as Spurrier right now. Tons of close games, same type of record, etc. It looks very similar but the outlook on this board seems completely different. I don't understand it. No one wants to admit any wrongdoing on Gibbs part, and I think that's unfair to the players. I think a lot of time they did execute, but how many yards do you expect to get on a hitch pass?

BossHog
12-14-2004, 01:45 PM
Well 47 yards of the penalties came on one play by Springs, the interference play, McNabb to Owens. The new rules have the already high flying offenses of last year well, flying higher. Do you think Peyton Manning could have broken Marino's record prior to this one's? And to think Harrison if having an 'off year'!?

skinsguy
12-14-2004, 02:03 PM
Matty, we're going the same route as Spurrier right now. Tons of close games, same type of record, etc. It looks very similar but the outlook on this board seems completely different. I don't understand it. No one wants to admit any wrongdoing on Gibbs part, and I think that's unfair to the players. I think a lot of time they did execute, but how many yards do you expect to get on a hitch pass?

Man, let it go already! Steve Spurrier is not the Redskins' coach anymore!

:smashfrea

SmootSmack
12-14-2004, 04:13 PM
Matty, we're going the same route as Spurrier right now. Tons of close games, same type of record, etc. It looks very similar but the outlook on this board seems completely different. I don't understand it. No one wants to admit any wrongdoing on Gibbs part, and I think that's unfair to the players. I think a lot of time they did execute, but how many yards do you expect to get on a hitch pass?

I guess we'll just have to see if Gibbs' team regresses the second year the way Spurrier's did

Either way, I think Gibbs gets a litle more leeway than Spurrier because Gibbs has proven that his method works in the NFL, Spurrier never proved that

But I think Matty and skinsguy said it best....let it go. By the way, have you joined a Gamecocks forum yet? :D

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