Pinkston PUSSSSSY!!!

How long do you think players need to start to blosom into NFL players. I am just asking .. it is just that numerous guys say it takes 4 years to properly groom a QB, Pennington is a case in point same with Brees, probably 4 years for a WR too to properly develop but LBs seem to have instant impact in the first two years or just fizzle and RB too seem to be quick to make an impact. How long until a high round draft pick becomes a bust ?

1. I am not a Taylor hater. I merely think he is a meathead who needs to be taught how to play football beyond the headhunting big hit that makes the SportsCenter show at midnite. He has a lot of grwoing up to do and a lot to learn about being a safety in the NFL. So far, I have not seen a lot of "growth" there and that bothers me. If he is playng like this in 2006, he'll be just another high draft pick that was wasted.

If you want to try to convince me he is not a meathead, explain how all his "agent shennanigans" and his failure to go to the required rookie seminars and his DWI arrest support your thesis...


2. What I intended to say was that I would rather have seen Pinkston score on that play and have the Skins win anyway - say 28-24. Only losers look at a play like that and revel in it being something special to them because winners have already dealt with the fact that they won and are moving on to deal with the next team they are going to beat.
SC, no offense man but I think your evaluation of Taylor is so way off it's not even funny. The guy is constantly around the ball, I've asked you about the INT he caused last night several times but you keep glossing over it. He's got freakish skills and he has clearly made strides over the course of this season. I think he's playing very well for a rookie, and safety is not an easy position to play for a young guy.

Check out out Wilbon had to say about him, is he missing the boat on Taylor too??

But the Redskins, despite the 28-6 loss, played the Eagles pretty even for three quarters plus, which is why there was so much optimism around town coming into this game. And they were even tougher on the Eagles this time. The toughest Redskin of all had to be Ronnie Lott -- I mean Sean Taylor. Taylor has a whole lot to learn about playing the position, which is why teams try to take advantage of him now. But increasingly, Taylor is looking like the most instinctive and violently disruptive safety since Lott was in his prime. Taylor is a beast, an absolute monster of defensive might. When you see opposing receivers -- good receivers -- dropping balls in open spaces and can't figure out why, Taylor is why. He's everywhere, running like a cornerback and hitting like Butkus.
Taylor turned the game around when he tipped a McNabb pass and turned it into a Shawn Springs interception before Springs got de-cleated on a play that scared everybody, and resulted in about the worst sight one can see at a football game: a player being carted off the field.

I found the clip of Pinkston getting ready to get in to the fetal position, don't get too much joy out of watching it though, remember only losers like this kind of stuff when your team loses. ;)

Screw that, just enjoy it for what it is, a WR playing scared.

http://www.image4u.org/johnnypunani/pinky3.gif

:laughing- I still can't get over that.........I could watch it 1000 more times.

Matty:

Yes. Taylor tipped a pass which was intercepted last night. Good.

Yes, he is always "around the ball". The problem is that he is often there about a step and a half late. I remember all of his "highlight reel plays"; what I don't think others remember are those plays where he didn't get the job done. Go check the Eagles 3rd Q TD drive and you'll see three such plays last night.

How long until a player has impact in the NFL? For most QBs it is a couple of years. McNabb and Culpepper and Manning and Favre all had difficulties in their early days. But what they didn't do was perpetuate the same mistakes - with the exception of Culpepper who still fumbles waaay too much.

LBs and REALLY GOOD CBs and safeties can play in year 1. Most CBs take a year to develop and most play well by year 2. Rookie RBs can ve very good as can rookie WRs although WRs may take a year to learn the "allowable handfighting" in the NFL. Rookie OTs usually have problems; rookie OGs and Centers seem to do better. Rookie TEs are just fine.

Troy Polamalu (sp?) did not start for most of last year with Pitts but this year he has emerged as an outstanding young safety. With apologies to Mike Wilbon, Polamalu is not as big as Sean Taylor so he is not as imposing, but he is the better player.

Thanks Matty! Great to see over and over.
Curmudgen don't agree w/ ya about Taylor. People being scared and/or intimidated by him is a good thing. And I do think he's improved alot this season. Ofcourse he wants to knock someone out, but like arrington sometimes a huge shot doesn't keep 'em outta the endzone. To my recollection it was the only time in the game when he didn't wrap up on a tackle.

SC, the problem with comparing Taylor to Polamalu is Taylor is a rookie safety and Polamalu is a 2nd year guy. I'd be willing to bet Taylor will be better than Polamalu at this point next year and you'll be hardpressed to find an NFL GM that wouldn't want ST over TP.

They also don't play the same safety position, but I'm not going to nitpick.

Polamalu was burned on more than one occasion his rookie year... in fact, I'd venture to say it was about the same amount as Taylor this year. I watched Troy play here at SC- Taylor has much more athletic ability without question... Sean's on track as far as Troy was concerned.

Only losers look at a play like that and revel in it being something special to them because winners have already dealt with the fact that they won and are moving on to deal with the next team they are going to beat.
Well apparently ESPN Monday night coutdown must be losers to because the very first thing they showed for JACKED UP was Pinkston ducking out of the way. The message was that he did not want to get Jacked Up because big bad Ryan Clark was ready to paste him. Not Shawn Taylor but Clark. We contantly revel on bad plays so why shouldn't we enjoy good ones also, win or lose?

This is too funny

http://img123.exs.cx/img123/8654/pinkygator2ug.png