R.I.P. Dave Duerson

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diehard
02-23-2012, 05:23 PM
He's gonna win.

skinster
02-23-2012, 06:28 PM
And the root of the pussification of football is evident. I feel like smoking was just linked to cancer.

skinsfan69
02-23-2012, 08:10 PM
Ex-NFLers battle with brain trauma may help explain why Dave Duerson committed suicide (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/2011/02/26/2011-02-26_exnflers_battle_with_brain_trauma_may_help_expl ain_why_dave_duerson_committed_su.html)

Very very sad to hear the news about Brown. I hope things turn out ok for him.

mooby
02-23-2012, 09:36 PM
All this talk about the pussification of football, and so on/so forth, is disappointing. I love football as much as the next sport, but I do feel like enough hasn't been done to protect the lives of players long after they've left the game.

I know a lot of you have no sympathy for people who risk their lives to play a game and get well rewarded in the process, but a lot of these players who they talk about in the press today, the ones committing suicide, and living the rest of their lives in pain, weren't getting paid nearly as much as the guys of today are. And all they have to show for their time in football is a lot of medical bills and daily medical problems that make their lives unbearable. Have a little sympathy for the older generation here.

The NFL still has a long way to go to take care of the people who helped make the league what it is, and they also have a long way to go to improve the safety of the sport today. We can still have awesome football without sacrificing players' bodies once they've left the sport.

skinsfan69
02-23-2012, 09:44 PM
All this talk about the pussification of football, and so on/so forth, is disappointing. I love football as much as the next sport, but I do feel like enough hasn't been done to protect the lives of players long after they've left the game.

I know a lot of you have no sympathy for people who risk their lives to play a game and get well rewarded in the process, but a lot of these players who they talk about in the press today, the ones committing suicide, and living the rest of their lives in pain, weren't getting paid nearly as much as the guys of today are. And all they have to show for their time in football is a lot of medical bills and daily medical problems that make their lives unbearable. Have a little sympathy for the older generation here.

The NFL still has a long way to go to take care of the people who helped make the league what it is, and they also have a long way to go to improve the safety of the sport today. We can still have awesome football without sacrificing players' bodies once they've left the sport.

How can the league can make it safer than it already is. Equipment wise? Perhaps. But they've already taken it too far with all the soft calls. It's a violent game and concussions can't be stopped. If the awareness was better back in the earlier days then perhpas some of these guys wouldn't be in the positions they're in now. I hope the league does something heath care wise for the older guys. But they can't do anything more with the on the field stuff.

MTK
02-23-2012, 09:53 PM
All this talk about the pussification of football, and so on/so forth, is disappointing. I love football as much as the next sport, but I do feel like enough hasn't been done to protect the lives of players long after they've left the game.

I know a lot of you have no sympathy for people who risk their lives to play a game and get well rewarded in the process, but a lot of these players who they talk about in the press today, the ones committing suicide, and living the rest of their lives in pain, weren't getting paid nearly as much as the guys of today are. And all they have to show for their time in football is a lot of medical bills and daily medical problems that make their lives unbearable. Have a little sympathy for the older generation here.

The NFL still has a long way to go to take care of the people who helped make the league what it is, and they also have a long way to go to improve the safety of the sport today. We can still have awesome football without sacrificing players' bodies once they've left the sport.

Nailed it.

diehard
02-23-2012, 10:49 PM
All this talk about the pussification of football, and so on/so forth, is disappointing. I love football as much as the next sport, but I do feel like enough hasn't been done to protect the lives of players long after they've left the game.

I know a lot of you have no sympathy for people who risk their lives to play a game and get well rewarded in the process, but a lot of these players who they talk about in the press today, the ones committing suicide, and living the rest of their lives in pain, weren't getting paid nearly as much as the guys of today are. And all they have to show for their time in football is a lot of medical bills and daily medical problems that make their lives unbearable. Have a little sympathy for the older generation here.

The NFL still has a long way to go to take care of the people who helped make the league what it is, and they also have a long way to go to improve the safety of the sport today. We can still have awesome football without sacrificing players' bodies once they've left the sport.

There are plenty of average Joes in the same situation...

freddyg12
02-24-2012, 08:49 AM
Would players be willing to play fewer games in a season & have more of their $ automatically allocated to retirement & long-term health care, thus reducing overall take home pay?

The NFL isn't innocent in all this, but the players union until recently was all about getting more $. The players at one point were even open to playing 2 more games. I realize that was a bargaining tool, but the jist of it is that the players have always fought for more $ more than their safety & long-term health. Also, some of these guys need to hang it up earlier.

skinster
02-27-2012, 11:24 AM
All this talk about the pussification of football, and so on/so forth, is disappointing. I love football as much as the next sport, but I do feel like enough hasn't been done to protect the lives of players long after they've left the game.

I know a lot of you have no sympathy for people who risk their lives to play a game and get well rewarded in the process, but a lot of these players who they talk about in the press today, the ones committing suicide, and living the rest of their lives in pain, weren't getting paid nearly as much as the guys of today are. And all they have to show for their time in football is a lot of medical bills and daily medical problems that make their lives unbearable. Have a little sympathy for the older generation here.

The NFL still has a long way to go to take care of the people who helped make the league what it is, and they also have a long way to go to improve the safety of the sport today. We can still have awesome football without sacrificing players' bodies once they've left the sport.

Woah woah woah. Just because the pussification of football is happening doesnt mean that its not the right thing to do. I'm just saying I'm bummed that the rules are changing. Of course nobody should give up their livelyhood for the game, but it sucks that we're finding out just how damaging this game really is. I guess I am a little selfish because I do care more about the product deteriorating than people I do not know, but I'm not selfish enough to not be able to recognize that taking safety precautions is the right thing to do.

Defensewins
01-12-2013, 12:23 AM
Maybe some hope for treatment to help the players with brain injuries. At least it has helped Bernie Kosar. I hope this is real groundbreaking stuff and not some money making BS.

Concussion-scarred Bernie Kosar finds relief with ‘groundbreaking’ treatment - Top Stories - Ohio (http://www.ohio.com/news/top-stories/concussion-scarred-bernie-kosar-finds-relief-with-groundbreaking-treatment-1.364083)

Kosar getting 'groundbreaking' help for concussions - NFL - CBSSports.com News, Rumors, Scores, Stats, Fantasy (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21535500/kosar-getting-groundbreaking-help-for-concussions/rss)

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