hurrykaine
12-17-2004, 12:03 PM
Samuels is gone (unless he agrees to a dramatic restructuring)
Gardner
Cartwright
One of Raymer/Friedman
On the Defensive side,
Barrow is gone
celts32
12-17-2004, 02:19 PM
we have the deep threat they just aren't using him. get a clutch possession reciever
Fill me in?
Wyn ~ Samuels ~ Cartwright ~ Kozlowski ~ Possibly Gardner
Wyn and Samuels present future Cap issues and you might as well offload now and take the hit. The real question is how much money are the willing to spend on Pierce and if so will they let Barrow go?
offiss
12-17-2004, 03:07 PM
Samuel's, Morton, Gardner, rock, Sellar's, Raymer, Friedman, trade for whatever we can get and let the rest go, I think Dockery may be better suited for a backup role.
Hall, Barrow, Jacob's, I believe will all be here next year, I am sure William's has some say on the defensive side of the ball and he really likes Barrow, and judging what Gibb's think's of rookie's does anyone really think he's going to cut Hall for a rookie kicker?
Hall will be back as long as his leg problems are resolved.
I'm not sure about letting Wynn go either, he's had his best season as a Redskin, he seems to be a good fit in this defense, then again you can say that of almost anyone this year it seems.
manicd
12-17-2004, 04:18 PM
I'm not trying to be a smart ass here. But who would want any of our players that people on this board suggest we trade? I mean, what team is going to say, "hey, this guy isn't wanted by a sub .500 team. Let's sign him here." We stink folks. We don't want some of these players because it is believed they are helping us stink. I can't imaging any team out there picking up rejects. Well, except for the Washington Redskins! Dohhh!!!
Defensewins
12-17-2004, 05:07 PM
Fill me in?
I have a feeling aehs77 is going to say Taylor Jacobs. Another one of those incrediblly talented guys on our roster that can't even crack the starting lineup. It is amazing that since Champ Bailey said once after the first few non-contact spring practices (last season) that Taylor Jacobs was the toughest WR to cover on our team. I guess some guys have taken that one statement and run with it.
Taylor Jacobs must not be showing much in practice because Gibbs has a history of giving anyone with talent a chance. Gibbs especially has given so many low draft pick or undrafted WR's like Gary Clark, Alvin Garret, Charlie Brown and Virgil Seay a chance and they did well.
GoSkins!
12-17-2004, 09:12 PM
Either Raymer or Friedman. We need an upgrade at center. No question.
Cartwright unless he can do the opposite of this season and pack on 30
pounds and become the power back we lack right now.
Kozlowski or Sellars - we need a more solid tight end. We may not find one but I bet one of these guys go just to make that point clear to the remaining TE's.
I think Barrow stays if he is healthy at the start of camp. Gibbs and Williams won't forget this years injuries and will want some depth. If the injury lingers, even a little, he is gone.
Gardner - is a question mark. These last few games may decide it. I think he will be around next year.
Morton - gone. Possibly one of the only guys with a little trade value. NY may want him back.
jrocx69
12-17-2004, 09:49 PM
*samuels
raymer
gardner
kozlowski
*daniels
barrow
ADE!
lott
just a guess, samuels and daniels might cost us later down the road, but i dont think gibbs is a big fan of samuels nor anyone else, and daniels seemed way to injury proan to keep on the roster. but i hope we dont cut barrow, he is a tackling machine and maybe this was a fluke year for him.
Defensewins
12-18-2004, 09:22 AM
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......and daniels seemed way to injury proan to keep on the roster. but i hope we dont cut barrow, he is a tackling machine and maybe this was a fluke year for him.
You when reach Barrow's age and miss an entire season with a knee injury where there is no actual structural damage, it is not a good sign. Barrow's knee is more an accumalated wear and tear thing over the years than an actual injury from a play that bent his knee and tore something. You can't point your finger and say something like... 'in preseason game 3 one of the cheap/dirty Denver Broncos lineman dove at his knee and hyperextended it.
I hope he comes back to form, he is a great player, but his knee problem is similar to what ended Dave Fiore career. PLus we will take a Salary cap hit if he retires or gets cut before next season.