MTK
12-17-2004, 10:54 AM
nice post BL, good points across the board
Should Arrington Be Rushed Back Into the Lineup?MTK 12-17-2004, 10:54 AM nice post BL, good points across the board heybigstar 12-17-2004, 01:14 PM Most important thing is that he stays healthy.... Remember, Lavar will be at his natural postiion (weak-side lb) for the first time in his career... JWsleep 12-17-2004, 01:30 PM Look, if he's not physically ready, he shouldn't be back. and especailly if there's liklihood that he'll reinjure himself. But I think the main reason he should play is becuase he needs to show his teamates, his coaches, and himself, that he is a REAL REDSKIN. That means playing hurt like his fellow skins Smoot, Thomas, Griffen, stc. And he wants to be there in the bad times with this team so he can feel the satisfaction when we get better. He is suppossed to be a leader on this defense, and he can't do that from the sidelines. Williams will use Lavar all over the place. He hides his formations very well; that's why his blitzes are effective. Lavar will come off the end, but mainly as the weakside LB. He creates havoc that way: try blocking him with an RB! NY_Skinsfan 12-17-2004, 03:31 PM Look, if he's not physically ready, he shouldn't be back. and especailly if there's liklihood that he'll reinjure himself. But I think the main reason he should play is becuase he needs to show his teamates, his coaches, and himself, that he is a REAL REDSKIN. That means playing hurt like his fellow skins Smoot, Thomas, Griffen, stc. And he wants to be there in the bad times with this team so he can feel the satisfaction when we get better. He is suppossed to be a leader on this defense, and he can't do that from the sidelines. Williams will use Lavar all over the place. He hides his formations very well; that's why his blitzes are effective. Lavar will come off the end, but mainly as the weakside LB. He creates havoc that way: try blocking him with an RB! Aren't you contradicting yourself...first you say he shouldn't play if he isn't physically ready and then right after that you say he should play hurt to show that he is a true Redskin. Doesn't make sense. I don't think it's necessary that he show proof he wants to be a Redskin. He proved it with the contract extension and by not letting the greivance get in the way. Playing hurt to show that you are a true Redskin only really works if you continue to play in the same game that you got hurt in....ie smoot with his shoulders and coles with his dislocated finger. Coming back after being out 11 weeks isn't really showing you can play hurt. JWsleep 12-17-2004, 04:45 PM Not quite contradicting myself;) There's a distinction between playing hurt and playing hurt when it could risk long-term injury. Look, if he's risking long-term injury, he shouldn't play. Otherwise, I think it's important to get on the field and become part of this defense. He needs to prove it to his teamates on the field, not in the front office. As for staying in the game, sure, that's a way to do it, but look at Thomas coming back with the hammy, or Griffen with the hip. That inspired the team and showed that those guys are "real redskins". Lavar is a gifted player and one who can change a game with big plays. As it stands now, we have folks on this board (and elsewhere) calling to trade/get rid of him, etc., because Lemar Marshall is playing well. Lavar needs to get it there and show that he can fit with this team and make it better. Lavar was listed on the "most overrated" team. He's also been accused of putting himself and his image before the team, of not being a team guy, etc. Getting back on the field even with a dinged knee shows your teamates and coaches that the team comes first, that even when he could have shut it down and rested on the sidelines, come back next year rested, etc. Instead, he toughed it out to be with his fellow skins in the trenches. That's how you earn respect as a team leader, not by signing a contract or ignoring arbitration hearings, etc. Lavar needs to come in and put his mark on this season, even in the late stages, so he can make a legitemate claim to being a core guy who stuck it out in the tough times. Our team is better with Lavar in the mix, and getting him in there now gets the chemistry going that much sooner. NY_Skinsfan 12-17-2004, 07:43 PM I agree with most of what you're saying jwsleep, but i have another question. If Jansen was not on IR would you want him back in the games now since he is apparently ready? Does he need to prove that he is a "core guy?" No, I don't think he does and I'm sure you don't think he does either. My point being, I don't feel that Arrington needs to prove to anyone, players or coaches or fans, that he is a "core guy" at this point. heybigstar 12-17-2004, 11:25 PM difference between Arrington and Jansen is really the money and the fact that Lavar is the most popular redskin, so he has all the media attention.. Jansen doesnt have that.. people want to see what Lavar can do under Gregg Williams JWsleep 12-18-2004, 02:59 AM I actually would be kinda psyched to see Jansen out there. From what I read (Times, maybe?) they had to put him on IR becuase they weren't sure if he'd be ready and they needed a replacment. But I take your point about Lavar, NYskinsfan: no doubt he's a core guy. But I'll just be psyched to see if it can all fit together. I would have said Jansen and Lavar were the team captains prior to the season. The sooner we get our leaders out there on the field, the better for cohesion, chemistry, and kickin' ass. (And I predicted to a cowroid fan that Lavar would "retire" Vinny like he "retired" Troy. Gotta make good on those promises!:) ) NY_Skinsfan 12-18-2004, 06:58 AM I actually would be kinda psyched to see Jansen out there. From what I read (Times, maybe?) they had to put him on IR becuase they weren't sure if he'd be ready and they needed a replacment. But I take your point about Lavar, NYskinsfan: no doubt he's a core guy. But I'll just be psyched to see if it can all fit together. I would have said Jansen and Lavar were the team captains prior to the season. The sooner we get our leaders out there on the field, the better for cohesion, chemistry, and kickin' ass. (And I predicted to a cowroid fan that Lavar would "retire" Vinny like he "retired" Troy. Gotta make good on those promises!:) ) Oh, man if Lavar can retire Vinny like he did Troy, that would be a great ending to a dismal year. Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-18-2004, 06:55 PM Arrington has only played at DE in the first half of the 49ers game. |
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