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Ruhskins 06-27-2011, 10:59 AM True fan!
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4 INTs and a TD isn't worth even a syllable of praise? Seriously, I do not understand some of you pessimist "fans".
He's more of a cafeteria fan, just pick and choose what you like. And bash the hell out of the rest.
Monkeydad 06-27-2011, 11:09 AM I think Haynesworth could have qualified for "Best Male Athlete with a Disability".
To date, I have abstained from both vote and commentary. As a point of order and for informational value, I will continue to do so........
skinster 06-27-2011, 11:12 AM Hey guys, vote for DeAngelo Hall for his 4 INT performance against the Bears!
Normal Reaction: Yeah, definitely. Go Redskins!
Warpath Reaction: Hell no! He's a fraud. Why inflate his ego for a random occurrence. And while we're on the subject...the Pro Bowl is for losers and he didn't deserve the MVP there either. I wouldn't praise Osama bin Laden so why would I root for DeAngelo Hall.
Pathetic
Man, I gotta learn to never use metaphors on this site. I thought the caution of the over-exaggeration I used would be read, but I guess not. Of course I don't think Deangelo is like osama. It was an over-exaggerated metaphor to show my line of thinking a little more clearly of why I don't like to acknowledge that Deangelo will win an award for being the best at something. Try not to take it out of context. I was just trying to clarify my viewpoint, but obviously did a poor job of it.
skinster 06-27-2011, 11:14 AM I think Haynesworth could have qualified for "Best Male Athlete with a Disability".
like
Jamarcus Russell syndrome?
SmootSmack 06-27-2011, 11:19 AM Man, I gotta learn to never use metaphors on this site. I thought the caution of the over-exaggeration I used would be read, but I guess not. Of course I don't think Deangelo is like osama. It was an over-exaggerated metaphor to show my line of thinking a little more clearly of why I don't like to acknowledge that Deangelo will win an award for being the best at something. Try not to take it out of context. I was just trying to clarify my viewpoint, but obviously did a poor job of it.
I know you qualified it by saying it was an exaggeration. But as NLC pointed out, even as an exaggeration it was ridiculous.
It is interesting that you, and others, seem to have such disdain for DeAngelo Hall that you won't vote for him to win some silly TV award because it somehow would justify his struggles outside of that game.
I can't quite understand that. It's as if you think if he wins he's going to walk into Allen's office with his trophy, slam it on the desk, and say "****in' pay me bitch! I got the mother****in' ESPY!"
skinster 06-27-2011, 11:29 AM ...I would not compare DeAngelo Hall to Osama Bin Laden.
One guy occasionally runs his mouth (less so this past season), one killed thousands of people and in essense changed an entire culture by being a hateful, miserable excuse for a human being.
One does not equal the other, even when you exaggerate. Like, at all.
And if you're not going to be happy until the team can win a Super Bowl, then get to be a miserable bum for a WHILE or pick another football team to root for.
Aside from Seattle, every team in the playoffs had a legitimate shot of being a Super Bowl caliber team. Sometimes the ball bounces your way, sometimes they don't but they all had a shot. No way people were thinking Green Bay was going to the Super Bowl when they were struggling to beat the Lions and losing to teams like the Redskins and Dolphins, especially not with all the injuries they have.
Being competitive should mean not being a doormat. It should mean that teams can't look at their schedule and say "yeah, we can probably beat that team". With so much parity in the NFL, any competitive football team has a legit shot of taking it all the way.
You're going to be in for a long wait if you're thinking the team will only be competitive when you deem them capable of winning a Super Bowl. Getting the playoffs is the first stop, and from there it's all in the universes hands.
I think I addressed the osama thing in my last post.
I will not be satisfied with our team untill we have the potential to win the superbowl. I don't think that's unreasonable. That is the goal of every season, that is why the game is played, so if it is unattainable why should I be satisfied?
For the record I thought Green Bay WAS GOING TO with the superbowl the moment the got into the playoffs. So don't say nobody expected it. I think that some teams that had potential to win the superbowl didn't even make the playoffs (NYG and SD come to mind). I don't believe every team that makes it can do it. I don't think KC could, and I don't think Sea could. There are two-three more teams I don't think could that were in it that I don't want to mention because I don't want to start a war over semantics. There are roughly about 10 teams any given year that have potential to win it.
The next obvious question that comes to mind is why do I even watch the redskins if I am not satisfied with them? Well unfortunately for me the answer is I really enjoy watching the process of getting to that level. Improvement, and steps in the right direction of getting to be a contender is exciting and interesting to me. I say unfortunately because it doesn't seem as if we have been taking those steps within the last many years. This last year's draft was a step in the right direction, and although I disagree with many of the moves that were made, I appreciate that progress is still being made IMO. We aren't trading the future away to slightly and temporarily improve our team anymore, so I am excited about that and I am excited to see where the redskins will be 3 years from now. I don't think that we will reach the point I want to be at 3 years from now, but I feel like we will be close enough that I can smell it, and the closer we get, the more excited I will get.
skinster 06-27-2011, 11:36 AM I know you qualified it by saying it was an exaggeration. But as NLC pointed out, even as an exaggeration it was ridiculous.
It is interesting that you, and others, seem to have such disdain for DeAngelo Hall that you won't vote for him to win some silly TV award because it somehow would justify his struggles outside of that game.
I can't quite understand that. It's as if you think if he wins he's going to walk into Allen's office with his trophy, slam it on the desk, and say "****in' pay me bitch! I got the mother****in' ESPY!"
I would like to stop talking about the osama thing. I was just trying to get my message across more clearly but obviously it was a poor metaphor and I made it less clear. Still I hope the message I was trying to send was recieved. I think that deangelo is a "me" guy, a diva. His comments that he should always be one on one with the top WR because he is the best disgust me. I'm not worried about him wanting more money, I'm worried that winning this award will contribute to him reinforcing his undeserved ego and becoming a locker room cancer. Plus I don't want people I dont like to win awards....but let me clarify by saying that is my SECONDARY concern.
SmootSmack 06-27-2011, 11:48 AM Um..ok. If he bothers you that much, I guess it's your prerogative. Personally, I don't think a player who has actively won (and helped us win) games by being aggressive and making plays, practices hard every time out, has been a mentor to the young DBs, demands more responsibility, and is actively involved in the community is such a strong detriment to the franchise. But that's just me.
NLC1054 06-27-2011, 12:21 PM And don't you WANT that from a guy? I mean, didn't Haslett pretty much say he understood why D-Hall was saying it? And he said that right after we lost a game we had no business losing and somehow Andre Johnson ended up matched up on Reed Doughty. I like Reed, I think he's probably a better safety than anyone wants to give him credit for, but Doughty on Johnson...that match-up shoulda never happened.
So he says something out of being frustrated, in a case where he was probably right (Johnson should've been matched up again 'Los or D-Hall regardless), and he's got an ego? He was pissed. I like that he cares. I like that he says that he should've been put on Andre Johnson, the best wide receiver in the league. I like that losing pissed him off and made him angry.
You think that if that happens to Nnamdi Asomugha he's going to be all sunshine and rainbows? No. Now, would Nnamdi voice his frustration? But I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
D-Hall's mellowed out and been nothing but a team player since he got here. His teammates voted him a team captain. He's stepped up and taken that leadership role seriously and has bought into what Mike Shanahan is tring to do here. The guy played a lot of the season hurt last year and didn't kvetch about it or complain.
That's the weird thing about Redskins fans; the grudges we carry. I know we've been burned by a lot of guys, but (and maybe it's because I'm a new-ish fan) I think sometimes, we take it overboard with some of the more flamboyant guys. You're going to get guys like D-Hall who are little more boisterous than others, it's just how the game works.
I'd rather have a guy gripe about not being put on the number one receiver in the league than a guy who just shrugs and says "we'll get them next time".
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