Chris Cooley/Fred Davis

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MTK
08-15-2011, 02:30 PM
I don't really see CC having a ton of trade value, even if healthy. Maybe a late round pick at best. I'd rather just keep him til his contract runs out.

GTripp0012
08-15-2011, 02:51 PM
I don't really see CC having a ton of trade value, even if healthy. Maybe a late round pick at best. I'd rather just keep him til his contract runs out.Agree. And with Cooley's lingering knee, there won't be a "secret" about Davis' skill level when he hits free agency after this year. He's going to be properly valued by (a weak) market, which means that if we don't pay him like a starter, the New York Giants probably will.

Which, if we decide he has too many holes in his game to be elite, might not be such a horrible thing.

GTripp0012
08-15-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm talking 1 year down the road, when Davis's contract expires. A 30 year old TE with injury issues and a high cap number doesn't have alot of value to us at all. One, maybe two more productive years out of him after this next one at most. Davis should be the future IMO, and next year I think we should make him the full starter.To piggyback on this point, the market seems to have decided that age 31 is the point where organizational lifer TEs (Cooley, Heap, Shockey, or anyone who wasn't Gates or Gonzalez in their primes) are being allowed to test the market instead of eating up a lot of cap space in their prime years.

Cooley is 29 now, and he's signed for three more years. He'll probably play out all three of those seasons. But the big news here is that perhaps Cooley isn't going to be a lifelong Redskin and that he'll play out his career elsewhere after this deal is done or gets too pricey.

We need Cooley for this season, and have to get him healthy soon. After that, we might choose to get younger and faster as an organization, and Davis might make more sense.

NLC1054
08-15-2011, 03:00 PM
That's the thing guys; there's no market for tight ends right now. Everyone who needed one has one, and no one's going to trade much for him. Trading him for a 4th or 5th round pick is silly. His value, at least in theory, is higher than that, and you don't trade a productive player like Cooley (and he is productive) for less than market value just because.

You trade him while he's hot. He's not hot right now.

BigHairedAristocrat
08-15-2011, 03:10 PM
cooley's a fan favorite, but i'd be very happy trading him for a late round pick. i certainly think we need to get rid of him, one way or another, before next season. Fred Davis is younger, more explosive, and more durable. He's the future at the position and we need to lock him up.

sportscurmudgeon
08-15-2011, 03:18 PM
Man that one time incident has just become an endless joke hasn't it

Only one time with the Redskins but Davis was well-known to be "schedule-challenged" all through his collegiate days...

MTK
08-15-2011, 03:26 PM
I think it's time to put the alarm clock issue to bed. He hasn't had any additional incidents since his rookie year has he?

Dirtbag59
08-15-2011, 03:34 PM
I don't really see CC having a ton of trade value, even if healthy. Maybe a late round pick at best. I'd rather just keep him til his contract runs out.

I don't know. BA is a wizard when it comes to trades. I'm sure if he wanted to trade Cooley he could at least get a third.

NLC1054
08-15-2011, 03:35 PM
cooley's a fan favorite, but i'd be very happy trading him for a late round pick. i certainly think we need to get rid of him, one way or another, before next season. Fred Davis is younger, more explosive, and more durable. He's the future at the position and we need to lock him up.

Fred also has trouble blocking on a consistent basis, and you don't jettison productive players for late round compensation unless you're absolutely sure they can no longer contribute in a meaningful manner.

GTripp0012
08-15-2011, 03:56 PM
I don't know. BA is a wizard when it comes to trades. I'm sure if he wanted to trade Cooley he could at least get a third.Part of Bruce Allen's wizardry, okay, all of it, involves not setting unrealistic expectations for a return in the trade. Getting two 6ths for McNabb's contract was wizardry. But the real magic was getting McNabb to sign the contract in the first place. Fletcher Smith had to be duped into thinking McNabb had a future here.

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