Now Let The Speculations Begin!

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Gmanc711
01-02-2005, 08:08 PM
All i know is cory raymer is probably the worst center of all time.


You wont find many people who will debate that. I agree.

offiss
01-02-2005, 08:09 PM
All i know is cory raymer is probably the worst center of all time.


Got that right, he's a major part of our running problem's.

Gmanc711
01-02-2005, 08:29 PM
Question for everyone:

If the Giants win Tonight, we Play @ Tampa Bay and home for Chicago Next year. Get a better draft pick

If the Cowboys win, we play @ Carolina and home for Detroit, get a worse (By like a pick) draft pick.

Who would you guys rather play next year? I'll take option a, becaues I dont want to go to Carolina.

Drift Reality
01-02-2005, 08:38 PM
The only guy I see whose future seems clearly in jeopardy, would be Rod Gardiner - he doesn't get it done on or off the field.

Besides, I saw Taylor Jacobs make some great plays today, and I think he is a starter in this league next year.

I agree with everyone who posted that we need to upgrade at center and at defensive end. I think our starting lineups will look something like this at the beginning of training camp next year:

QB - Ramsey
RB - Portis
HB - Cooley
TE - Royal
WR - Coles
WR - Jacobs
LT - Samuels
LG - Dockery
C - New Acquisition
RG - Thomas
RT - Jansen

DE - Daniels
DE - New Acquisition
DT - Griffin
DT - Salave'a
OLB - Washington
OLB - Arrington
MLB - Pierce
CB - Smoot
CB - Springs
SS - Bowen
FS - Taylor

Boy, that felt good to write out -

If that is not a lineup to be reckoned with, I don't know what is.

Go Skins!

jdlea
01-02-2005, 08:59 PM
I think the Skins need to get rid of Bowen, Morton, Kozlowski (worst TE ever), and Raymer. That's it. Start Clark because he's way better than whack ass Bowen. I say keep our receivers and add a bunch of bodies to fight it out with them in the preseason. They need to draft a DE in the first round.

Big C
01-02-2005, 09:39 PM
we definitely need a new Center, i think everyone on this site agrees. he gets too many penalties and allows a lot of pressure.

I was a Rod Gardner fan, but it may be his time to go. The way Thrash has played all season, the heart he shows, and the game he had today shows that he can be a #2 or 3 reciever. Jacobs can also play #2 or 3.

I hope Wynn comes back next year, he has been very solid and a good locker room presence. I heard that he was contemplating retirement somewhere, so i hope that it is not true, or he decides to come back.

Bringing in a new DE would be nice, but not necessary. I like the idea of the trade down to get Pollack, who doesnt have all the physical skills, but is a blue collar player that Gibbs would appreciate.

At the center position, i dont think drafting a guy is the way to go. we need someone with experience, a free agent that is saavy. I believe domanic raiola of the lions is a Free Agent, so looking at him might be a good idea.

Try and re-sign smoot, it would be nice to have him back, but i think we can survive without him if we have to. I think we would still be top 10 without him, Walt Harris can play, and so can Springs, but both are around 30 years old.

Cut Kozlowski, he seems to have a lot of heart, but i cant forget that dropped pass he had in the Cowboys game, that was picked off because of him

Cut Morton, Antonio brown seems a lot better and will come much cheaper

do not cut barrow, for it will have to financial benefit, and i think he only has 1 more year

Keep the o-line in tact except for Raymer. Dockery has potential, samuels is experienced and has potential, and with jansen and thomas, we may have the best right side in the league. Hopefully Samuels restructures to help us a little

brunell must restructure his contract, he has hinted that it is a possibility in the washington post

Late in the draft, take a safety and a defensive tackle, and maybe a tight end, although i really like royal, he has good hands and has a nose for the endzone

DO NOT bring in another QB, unless brunell retires or something drastic happens. P Ram need not have anymore competition

And finally, we MUST resign Pierce. He wants to be here, and he is a great, great player.


We do not need a roster overhaul, we are pretty close i think

jrocx69
01-02-2005, 10:11 PM
disagree, we need a DE, ITS A MUST!!!

we pass it up every year, and there is several out there waiting to get drafted.

first i would like to trade down and get a good 4th for 5th rounder extra, maybe squeez a 3rd in.
second option is to use what we have, and the names should be on the table:

E. James
D. Pollack
M. Kiwankia
M. Spears
D. Cody

bedlamVR
01-02-2005, 10:30 PM
Worring signs comming out in the press about Smoot, Samuels and Gardner.

I liked Gardner but we would make a saving against the cap and be able to give a PS like Scott Colman (sp) a shot of making the roster . Behind Gardner we have McCants, who may be gone, Taylor and Trash both of who should be ahead of Gardner right now. That said i seriously do not want to go after Williams if avaialable. We have drafted a WR with our top pick in Gardner, Taylor and effectivly Coles. If we have a chance trade down.

Big C
01-03-2005, 12:36 AM
disagree, we need a DE, ITS A MUST!!!

we pass it up every year, and there is several out there waiting to get drafted.

first i would like to trade down and get a good 4th for 5th rounder extra, maybe squeez a 3rd in.
second option is to use what we have, and the names should be on the table:

E. James
D. Pollack
M. Kiwankia
M. Spears
D. Cody

Why is DE a must? didnt we end up #2 with the ones we have? and with daniels out most of the season.

Gmanc711
01-03-2005, 12:43 AM
Why is DE a must? didnt we end up #2 with the ones we have? and with daniels out most of the season.

We did, but the lack of passrush at times of 3rd and longs killed us at times this season. They were exellent against the run, dont get me wrong there, and I'm happy with the play, but they just dont generate a passrush if they dont have help from blitzing.

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