Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Ravens)

I can't speak to Gtripp's personal issue or possible hatred against Hall.....however he is right that Hall does put himself before team in his on field play.

I'm not even referring to the incident after the TD. You are 100% correct, Hall is a great playmaker.....however he also gives up a great deal of plays too and is a poor tackler. Nothing has changed with Hall over the years, he is who he is. Unfortunately we're a bit thin at CB and Hall is our # 1.

I think this is correct, but we're not talking about a situation like TO or Randy Moss at their worst. Honestly, I wish his attitude would change, but you have to trust Mike Shanahan's ability to keep the team disciplined. My thinking is if Shanahan doesn't think it is an issue, then it isn't an issue.

That was one situation. It's like me saying that Cofield is weak b/c Ricky Williams knocked him down at the Ravens game. I do think is a bit ridiculous to call him a great tackler, but I wouldn't sub-par either. In 2010 he had 95 tackles, that was 3rd in the team behind London and Rocky.That was more of an indictment of our terrible DL in 2010 rather than a display of Hall's superior tackling.

That was more of an indictment of our terrible DL in 2010 rather than a display of Hall's superior tackling.

And I never said he was a superior tackler, but I would imagine that you can't be a piss poor tackler and be third in tackles on any team.

95 tackles last year..

Man I could only imagine what a good tackler would of had in his place.. Like 200? Who needs London Fletcher.. Let's just draft some better tackling CB's.

You can't label someone something because of one incident, that's totally ludicrous. Hall tackles well for a cornerback and he is what he is. He'll give up plays trying to make big ones, but most of the time he makes more plays then he gives up. He was 3rd ont he team in tackles last year with almost 100 tackles.On Hall's tackling, as others have mentioned, this is just an example, if you really watch the games closely or look at a DVR'd game....well let's just say the "eye in the sky don't lie".

Here is my problem with Hall and fans that support his play. Hall gives up far more plays than he makes, but the ones he makes are INTs and are what people remember from the game.
They don't remember:
- the 14 yds easy completion to Evans where hall wasn't within 2 yds of him
- or the 3 & 4 slant where Hall was abused, but fortunately the WR dropped
- or the whip route that Boldin abused Hall on for a first
- or the weak tackle effort from Hall on Boldin on the Otagwe blown coverage
- or the TD where Evans just blew by our #1 "speed" corner who couldn't recover and made no play on the ball
....and that was in 1 half without me really looking a Hall's tackling (I know he missed at least one other tackle)

Yes the INT for TD was a good play, but is it worth 2 first downs (a 3rd was dropped) to keep drives alive, plus a TD....I don't think so. Trust me on this, no OC fears Hall. On the contrary, OCs look to take advantage of Hall and for the most part they are successful.

My opinion of Hall's tackling is far from being based on one incident...am I suppose to list them all? He's a great playmaker...always has been since high school. But he has cost his teams some games by taking chances too. That's not an opinion...that's a fact. I see nothing wrong with seeing a players weaknesses as well as his strengths. He has both.

You know what else is a game-changer? giving up TDs to the opposing offense because you're more busy looking to score on defense than play good defense. I would much rather DHall focus more on coverage and less on TDs. Asomugha, Revis, Sharper, etc. are great CBs because they take the opposing WR out of the game, not because they score touchdowns.

Hall is what he is, a player that takes risks....sometimes he wins, sometime he loses. TBH I'd like to see a more complete player, if I were coaching him I would do so accordingly.

I'd take these before Hall, any day of the week and twice on Sunday:

Nnamdi, Woodson, Revis, McCourty, A. Samuel, DRC, T. Newman, Jammer, Grimes (ATL), P. Peterson, Trufant, Champ, B. Flowers, Finnegan, R. Mathis, Taylor & McFadden (PIT), Haden,

Probably would take V. Davis, C. Rogers (yes, I said it). and a few others too.

Hall isn't a "shut-down" corner. Hall makes plays, but gives up a ton of plays that more solid CBs don't give up.

T.Newman is a very good corner..but I'd still take Hall over him. I'll give you Woodson, Ndamdi, Revis, and A.Samuel...and maybe Champ. I think Hall is in the pack with the rest of those guys.

In almost every case you mentioned those teams had at least one Pro-Bowler, if not two, rushing the QB. Huge difference.

Flat out fact: if Chris Horton gets beaten in deep coverage by Lee Evans, then shamelessly stays on the field illegally with the idea that they'll have to go challenge the play if he protests it, Chris Horton gets released the next morning. Period. End of story.

Defensive "leaders" like Hall do get a bit more room for that, but we're really talking about 20% of NFL defensive players who won't get released instantly for pulling a selfish stunt. Whether or not your opinion of Hall is that he's one of the best 20% of defensive players in football, it's clear that the term to describe this is preferential treatment. If your defense of Hall is that he's earned preferential treatment, fine, my argument ends at that point. But let us at least call it what it is.

T.Newman is a very good corner..but I'd still take Hall over him. I'll give you Woodson, Ndamdi, Revis, and A.Samuel...and maybe Champ. I think Hall is in the pack with the rest of those guys.

In almost every case you mentioned those teams had at least one Pro-Bowler, if not two, rushing the QB. Huge difference.You'd take Hall over Brandon Flowers, given the choice?

Well, at least you're not guilty of a pro-VT bias.