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over the mountain
09-30-2011, 10:48 AM
Any thoughts to improve the Redzone Offense?

Id like to see us take some shots in the endzone once we get near the 20. I feel like at that range the D is still spread out enough, theres still enough space to run a seam route or something.

I feel like once we get inside the 15 or 10 it becomes more cramped and unless we do something to get some misdirection or create space like a roll out (which i havent seen yet for some reason) or do some kind of PA (like the only td in dallas) we arent really effective.

itd be great if our run was effective inside the 10 i havent really seen that yet.

idk, i think maybe the skins have gone more conservative in the RZ since rex' troubles down there in the 1st half against the cardinals. ever since then, it seems to me the philosophy has changed.

Chico23231
09-30-2011, 11:01 AM
Id like to see us take some shots in the endzone once we get near the 20. I feel like at that range the D is still spread out enough, theres still enough space to run a seam route or something.

I feel like once we get inside the 15 or 10 it becomes more cramped and unless we do something to get some misdirection or create space like a roll out (which i havent seen yet for some reason) or do some kind of PA (like the only td in dallas) we arent really effective.

itd be great if our run was effective inside the 10 i havent really seen that yet.
idk, i think maybe the skins have gone more conservative in the RZ since rex' troubles down there in the 1st half against the cardinals. ever since then, it seems to me the philosophy has changed.


I think this would be Torain's most "valued" area, from the 10 to the goaline. Id be thrilled to see Torain's pads lowered going off tackle down there.

SmootSmack
09-30-2011, 11:06 AM
Fearless prediction: After Sunday.....Rex Grossman will be a finalist for NFC Player of the Week

Ruhskins
09-30-2011, 11:24 AM
yes. I really really hope Shanny and co. spent alot of time with redzone offense because last week shoulda been an eye opener. Like to see a little more play action bootleg, get rex moving out the pocket, maybe WR screen to Santana, and some Cooley plays at HB and TE. We need something.

One thing that is killing us, is the Running Back stretch plays...that zone block sh*t isnt working when the line is crowded. Maybe 5 set Spread Draw with Helu, some power stuff with Torrain, or pitches to Hightower to get around the corner....

Any thoughts to improve the Redzone Offense?

Fred Davis is 6'4" 250 lbs. and has shown the ability to go up in the air to grab a pass. I think we need to use his height and jumping ability in the endzone more often.

firstdown
09-30-2011, 11:24 AM
I'm going 34 to 9 the skins.

MTK
09-30-2011, 11:28 AM
Fearless prediction: After Sunday.....Rex Grossman will be a finalist for NFC Player of the Week

I wouldn't be surprised.

I think Helu has a chance to have a big game too.

freddyg12
09-30-2011, 11:29 AM
last year, they whooped us in the 2nd half. They will bring pressure & that's what worries me. I think after monday's runless drives, Kyle will be looking to establish the run w/some creative looks, maybe a reverse here or there.

Monkeydad
09-30-2011, 11:30 AM
Any thoughts to improve the Redzone Offense?

All Hightower all the time. He was a goal line specialist with Arizona, who had an inferior line and scheme to us.

We seem to be abandoning the run inside the 20.

We're killing the league in time of possession and plays run...a sign that our run game has been good. Lets carry that success all the way into the end zone.

I would even let Helu carry more on the drives. He's a home run hitter. Hightower is a red zone stud. Lets use their strengths.

Week 1 Red Zone scoring: (scoring plays inside 20)
Hightower 1 yd run
Armstrong 6 yd pass
Gaffney 4 yd pass

Week 2 RZ scoring:
Gano 26 yd FG
Davis 1 yd pass
Gano 23 yd FG
Moss 18yd pass

Week 3 RZ scoring:
Gano 27 yd FG (snapped from 20)
Hightower 1 yd pass



This makes the passing game look good inside the 20, but it also looks like we're not running much in the Red Zone. These passing TDs are short-range.

Lets look at Rex's stats:

1st down - 47 pass attempts, 68.1% comp rate, 2 TD, 1 INT
2nd - 26, 69%, 1 TD, 0 INT
3rd - 36, 38.9%, 1 TD, 2 INT
4th - 2, 100%

Rex Grossman - Washington Redskins - Situational Statistics - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6358/situational;_ylt=AkwGG8d.jnPPG0S3gTOb4bb.uLYF)

Looks like we need to run more on 1st down. While Rex is on fire on first down, he's stalling drives on 3rd down. 2 of his 3 INTs are on 3rd down also, which is telling me he's becoming more mistake prone under pressure. Defenses are likely blitzing on 3rd down, which we know brings out the worst in Rex.

We have a great running/blocking scheme and a RB who is proven to be a TD specialist in the RZ in Hightower...we need to take advantage of this.

Chico23231
09-30-2011, 12:25 PM
One thing down in the redzone in throwing, it looks like Rex making one read and if its not there he is throwing the ball away. Now let me state Im for Rex throwing the ball away and not throwing a pick which he has already done down there. But sounds like we need to get more receivers involved in the play.

freddyg12
09-30-2011, 12:56 PM
I think the boyz did a good job of taking away Davis & felt they could cover the other guys 1 on 1. For the most part they did, at least long enough for their blitz to get to REx. Even when Rex had time, coverage was pretty good. i think we missed Armstrong more than we realize, he's really the only burner we have.

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