mooby
10-02-2011, 07:39 PM
Did anyone see Cruz' fumble? What was all that about?
To the refs credit it's a hard call. Basically Cruz went down on his own, got back up, and decided not to hang onto the ball. He wasn't down, so therefore it should've been a fumble, that the Cards recovered. Instead they ruled that he was down, or something along those lines that retained possession of the ball for the Giants.
Dirtbag59
10-02-2011, 07:41 PM
Even Rodney Harrison thinks that you can't build from the outside-in. #LookingAtYouPhilly
Dirtbag59
10-02-2011, 07:41 PM
Bobby Carpenter scored a Touchdown against Dallas? Isn't that the guy they said was to soft?
VTSkins1961
10-02-2011, 07:44 PM
Ref's blew the call in the Card's game. Giants should thank them for that.....
Ruhskins
10-02-2011, 07:54 PM
To the refs credit it's a hard call. Basically Cruz went down on his own, got back up, and decided not to hang onto the ball. He wasn't down, so therefore it should've been a fumble, that the Cards recovered. Instead they ruled that he was down, or something along those lines that retained possession of the ball for the Giants.
Just saw the highlight there, that was a BS call. Giants got lucky.
over the mountain
10-02-2011, 08:05 PM
on that cruz play, just saw it myself on the highlights. the refs said "he gave himself up" which means hes down. the az coach was told by the refs he couldnt challenge it.
i think they had peter king on as their expert who said a runner "gives himself up when he slides or...gives himself up"?
either way, seems to be a bad call b/c cruz caught it on the ground then got up and tried to run for a few yards then went back on the ground untouched in a fetile position then got back up dropping the ball . . .i believe "giving himself up" would have been if when he made a sliding catch then deciding not to get back up but he did . . .seems like a bad call all around
personally never heard of "giving himself up" as applied to a receiver, only a qb in the process of doing a slide where the ball comes loose during the process of the slide
mooby
10-02-2011, 08:07 PM
on that cruz play, just saw it myself on the highlights. the refs said "he gave himself up" which means hes down. the az coach was told by the refs he couldnt challenge it.
i think they had peter king on as their expert who said a runner "gives himself up when he slides or...gives himself up"?
either way, seems to be a bad call b/c cruz caught it on the ground then got up and tried to run for a few yards then went back on the ground untouched in a fetile position then got back up dropping the ball . . .i believe "giving himself up" would have been if when he made a sliding catch then deciding not to get back up but he did . . .seems like a bad call all around
personally never heard of "giving himself up" as applied to a receiver, only a qb in the process of doing a slide where the ball comes loose during the process of the slide
Ah, right, "giving himself up." Dumb call. He got up, he wasn't down, ball came out.
Do plays get stopped when 2 teams stand around while the ball is live on the field? Dumb call by the refs.
12thMan
10-02-2011, 08:09 PM
Bobby Carpenter scored a Touchdown against Dallas? Isn't that the guy they said was to soft?
They drafted him pretty high too. Out of Ohio, I believe.
skinsfaninok
10-02-2011, 08:13 PM
they drafted him pretty high too. Out of ohio, i believe.
oh st