Monk vs. Irvin

Unfortunately, everyone is right...

Sometimes it takes being a bit flambuoyant to make people remember you, even though people tend to remember the negative.

sportscurmudgeon is completely right when he says that people only focus on the negative. I mean when you think about people over the years, sports and not, most people tend to remember the bad ones versus the good ones.

It is true that people will be like, "Yeah, Irvin was loud and obnoxious." but no one, besides Redskins faithful, will ever remember Art Monk because he was a team guy and a class act.

Someone said that MOnk had more catches and yardage than Swann and Stallworth COMBINED. Can that be right?

I know that Monk caught about 950 passes but I would have guessed that both Swann and Stallworth had 600 - 700...

That is indeed right

Stallworth-537 receptions, 8.723 yards, 63 TDs
Lynn-336 receptions, 5.462 yards, 51 TDs
Total-873 receptions, 14,185 yards, 114 TDs

Monk-940 receptions, 12,721 yards, 68 TDs

I just find it hard to believe that the Redskins were (with the possible exception of the Niners) the best team in football from 1982-1992 and yet only John Riggins and Joe Gibbs are in the Hall from that era. Granted, Darrell Green will make it and perhaps Gary Clark. But no one else?!

Those are some impressive stats. It's a total shame.

1000 yard seasons: Monk (5), Irvin (7)
Season high yardage: Monk (1372), Irvin (1603)
Seasons over 1200 yards: Monk (2), Irvin (5)
Seasons with at least 6 TD catches: Monk (5), Irvin (6)

Monk's career numbers are much better, but he also played 4 more seasons than Irvin.

If you take a straight average of all his stats to his 16 year career, his average season works out to be 59 catches, 795 yards and 4 TD's.

Irvin in comparison over his 12 years averages out to 63 catches, 992 yards and 5 TD's per season.

Monks Stats based on his 1st 12 years. This is a even comparison and pulls out the last 4 years.

66.75 catches per year
915 yards per season
5 TD Per Season

Considering Monk was the slot reciever and recieved most of his passes over the middle and on quick out patterns that is pretty impressive. He also played in a ton of 3 reciever sets.

If you actually think Irvin will get into the HOF then do us all a favor and go buy a retro Irvin jersey and be a Cowgirls fan. There is one thing we always do as Redskin fans in Boo the Cowboys, No excuses allowed.

marino,and young are shoe ins.monk deserves it before 8 ball irvin does.look how long it took lynn swann to get in.

Young as a shoe in 1st time on the ballot won't happen.

Went to the USFL LA Express because of money
Failed in Tampa and wound up as Montana back up for a number of years
So from the time he came out of college till he finally started due to Montana being forced out because of injuries it was 8 years ('84-'91)
Started thru the '98 season, so that would make it 7 years of starts and not all complete seasons. In fact 2 of the 7 years he had 11 and 12 starts each year. So to call him a HOF with 1 superbowl is pretty much a travesty.

One other little tidbit, Monk never caught a touchdown pass in a Super Bowl.

Monk did catch a touchdown pass against the Bills in Super Bowl 26, unfortunately the guy in the replay booth was too dumb to see it.

:madani:

Art Monk isn't getting because he's too quiet about it. He needs to make some noise. It's a shame. Michael Irvin is a terrible human being, and he'll make it on the first ballot. Why? He's a Dallas Cowboy. America's Team^TM!

I went to the Wizards game tonight and afterward, as I was walking back to the Metro, I saw Art Monk on the corner of 9th and G streets soliciting a tranny prostitute and paying her with crack while his boys were beating down a homeless man for some weed....there, now he's a shoo-in for the Hall :D