The Shanaplan Gets Accelerated

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irish
10-27-2011, 12:50 PM
This team is still a long way from being consistently good but I do think Shanny has them on the right track to get there. This team has been over a decade in its destruction so its unrealistic to expect this mess can be fixed in a couple of years.

Lotus
10-27-2011, 12:53 PM
QB-With all the talk about "play the kids" I'm supprised people seem to still want Beck, a 30 y/o QB who's 1st game was no more or no less impressive then the 31 y/o Grossman. I'm starting the chant for Crompton. Maybe after 3 more games which turn out the same Beck can be benched for the QB on the PS who's only 24 y/o. He's our future. ;)



I'm with you. Part of me wants to play Crompton NOW, but that would be foolhardy. If Beck doesn't start clicking in the next few weeks, though...

JoeRedskin
10-27-2011, 12:54 PM
Torn ACL's take time to heal and fully recover from. Many backs are never the same. My take on TH is that he comes back next year at a bargain price. If Helu takes over as starter, TH would probably be great as a 3rd down, generic back up. If Helu doesn't take over, not sure a recovering TH (acknowledging Lotus' point that he will have had extended recovery time) is the answer at RB.

If Helu does not live up to expectations, I think we add RB to the list of needs b/c, even if he returns, I don't think TH will be in a position to be a starter. With that said, I like the guy and hope he makes a full recovery.

SBXVII
10-27-2011, 01:07 PM
SBXVII pm me your address so I can send you your official I LOVE BECK T-shirt LOL

LOL. AWESOME!


I (heart) Beck.

How come no one has stepped up with a Beck logo? There was "Pineapple Jesus", "Sexy Rexy" logo with him passing the pig skin.

No Beck? WTF?

SBXVII
10-27-2011, 01:10 PM
I'm with you. Part of me wants to play Crompton NOW, but that would be foolhardy. If Beck doesn't start clicking in the next few weeks, though...

Now, now.... I'm atleast a gentleman. Grossman got 4 games this year, Beck should be given the same amount of games. If nothing seems to change (as I expect it not to) then I'd make the change to Crompton for atleast 4 games to see if he's worth keeping next year or not.

SBXVII
10-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Torn ACL's take time to heal and fully recover from. Many backs are never the same. My take on TH is that he comes back next year at a bargain price. If Helu takes over as starter, TH would probably be great as a 3rd down, generic back up. If Helu doesn't take over, not sure a recovering TH (acknowledging Lotus' point that he will have had extended recovery time) is the answer at RB.

If Helu does not live up to expectations, I think we add RB to the list of needs b/c, even if he returns, I don't think TH will be in a position to be a starter. With that said, I like the guy and hope he makes a full recovery.

Lots of RB's come back kicking arse also. Wasn't it Steven Davis who was cut from the Skins after an injury, then went to the Panthers and lit it up there for a few (about what 7-10) years.

SmootSmack
10-27-2011, 01:14 PM
How about Terry Allen?

I can't see any scenario short of acquiring Adrian Peterson where Tim Hightower isn't on our roster in 2012...even if we did acquire Peterson

redsk1
10-27-2011, 01:20 PM
We're in year #2 of MS and BA. Small steps. I think we had a good draft. Next year we'll have Jenkins, TH, CC healthy hopefully, SM, a second year Kerrigan, Lightensteiger, Trent Williams in his prime, and a full draft class which will most likely contain a 1st round qb.

I wanted to see some improvement this year...but it might not be measured in wins and losses. It's going to be tough to gauge w/ the injuries, but regardless I happy where we are. Year 4 I want to see some wins.

Defensewins
10-27-2011, 01:41 PM
We're in year #2 of MS and BA. Small steps. I think we had a good draft. Next year we'll have Jenkins, TH, CC healthy hopefully, SM, a second year Kerrigan, Lightensteiger, Trent Williams in his prime, and a full draft class which will most likely contain a 1st round qb.

I wanted to see some improvement this year...but it might not be measured in wins and losses. It's going to be tough to gauge w/ the injuries, but regardless I happy where we are. Year 4 I want to see some wins.

The improvement can not be measured by wins. The improvement of the offensive line and defense is massive. The year before Shanahan was hired the level of play and talent level on this team was one of the league worst. This improvement in the level of play is still present even despite all of the injuries. That says even our backups are better. But we are still losing win-able games.
One of the few areas where we regressed is replacing Carlos Rogers with Josh Wilson. Rogers is playing very well and getting noticed in SF. Wilson has been a downgrade. Kevin Barnes has not impressed with his opportunity of more playing time. I am glad Shananhan and Haslett are giving the young guys like Barnes a look and more playing time, to see wha twe have. But I am growing tired of seeing Barnes get beat. I have seen enough of Barnes to know he is not an NFL starter and most likely never be more than a good back up. Wonder why we have not seen more of Buchanon and Westbrook?

mlmpetert
10-27-2011, 02:02 PM
Learning the depth of your team for each position is defintely the silver lining when it comes to injuries. I posted this in an another thread but the Redskins were the 10th oldest team at the start of the season:

2011 NFL team age ranks at 53-man cuts - NFC West Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/44505/2011-nfl-team-age-ranks-at-53-man-cuts)

I think 2 years ago we were the oldest. At the end of the day i dont really think it matters how old your team is because there are guys like Fletcher or Daniels who continue to play at a high level into the golden years. Old "vets" also seem to help younger players learn the nfl ropes. That said, i do think its important to have a good mix of young guys on the team that can take over when a player retires/gets cut.

We do have a lot of unproven (usually younger) guys and hopefully they will step up and take advantage of an opportunity whether its from injury like Cook at center or from poor play like Beck at QB. My biggest concern is on the defensive side of the ball, hopefully players will just get better in their positions as time goes on. And WR should have a lot of good battles.

Oh yeah, Hightower is definitely going to be here next year.

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