Laron Landry = Lavar?

Funny how losing makes some folks hate players smh.. I don't like how he talks trash but he's a top 10 safety in the NFL that would start on any team in the league

Sorry to be Mr. Spock here but the only way he would "start on any team in the league" would be if he were THE BEST free safety in the league or THE BEST tight safety in the league.

Laron Landry is neither...

Landry has not met his ceiling and certainly a large part of that is his own fault. He needs to do a lot of work to be more disciplined, take better angles, and be better in coverage. He has the physical tools but he needs to start using them better.

That said, it is easy to find safeties who are worse than LL but hard to find safeties who are better than LL. Until we have something better, we need to hang onto him.

And for those arguing that Doughty is better than LL - please pass what you are smoking! Don't bogart that kind bud!

Sorry to be Mr. Spock here but the only way he would "start on any team in the league" would be if he were THE BEST free safety in the league or THE BEST tight safety in the league.

Laron Landry is neither...

tight safety? This is a new position?

Sorry to be Mr. Spock here but the only way he would "start on any team in the league" would be if he were THE BEST free safety in the league or THE BEST tight safety in the league.

Laron Landry is neither...

I had to read that twice before I caught the logic. Very vulcan indeed. No one can say you are out of your vulcan mind. The logic is tight and right.

tight safety? This is a new position?

It's what you use to keep your panty hose from falling down.

[QUOTE=Lotus;854978]Landry has not met his ceiling and certainly a large part of that is his own fault. He needs to do a lot of work to be more disciplined, take better angles, and be better in coverage. He has the physical tools but he needs to start using them better.

Well no shiz. That is the whole point. Now puff puff give.

tight safety? This is a new position?

The terminology is contagious.

I have a client who refers to strong safeties as tight safeties because they often have to cover the tight end. I will have to go and wash my hands to get that terminology out of them for the next time I type out a posting. :confused: :embarrass

Landry has not met his ceiling and certainly a large part of that is his own fault. He needs to do a lot of work to be more disciplined, take better angles, and be better in coverage. He has the physical tools but he needs to start using them better.

That said, it is easy to find safeties who are worse than LL but hard to find safeties who are better than LL. Until we have something better, we need to hang onto him.

And for those arguing that Doughty is better than LL - please pass what you are smoking! Don't bogart that kind bud!

That is exactly right.
Why create a hole in the roster to fill another hole? That is spinning your wheels....like a dog chasing his tail.
We need to be patient and build through the draft over time.
Just as important, we need to bring in coaches that can develop talent. That can take promising young players and make them good NFL stars. Not coaches that have to have the talent in place to be good.
Doughty is not athletic enough to be an every day starter at safety or any other poistion in the NFL. I don't care how good his technique.

Your assumption is that LL is not "free-lancing." I don't know whether he is or not, but in creating the thread I was at least posing that question, so thanks for a thoughtful reply.

It may be a fine line between "free-lancing" and simply consistently misreading plays. Lavar would bite hard on every play fake it seemed, was that free lancing or simply a consistent failure to see the ball & read the play? That may be what Fletch was upset about.

Another similarity; Lavar couldn't shed blocks. LL takes on blockers like they have the ball sometimes, puts his body into them w/a hit, basically takes himself out of the play.


Obviously, I cannot read Laron Landry's mind so I do not KNOW he is not freelancing. However, what I see from him is that he approaches developing plays in a single way. He runs headlong at the point of attack and when he arrives he tries to deliver a huge hit. That is what he does. And it is that singular intent that often gets him "beat deep". That is not a value judgement on Laron Landry as a person; it is just a conclusion drawn from what I have seen on the field for almost five years now.

Given the similarity of his play on the vast majority of offensive plays, I conclude that is not "freelancing"; it is the way he plays.

Arrington was easy to "diagnose" with freelancing. LaVar said that is how he preferred to play and felt "constrained" by the coaches when they got angry with him for playing like that.

That is exactly right.
Why create a hole in the roster to fill another hole? That is spinning your wheels....like a dog chasing his tail.
We need to be patient and build through the draft over time.
Just as important, we need to bring in coaches that can develop talent. That can take promising young players and make them good NFL stars. Not coaches that have to have the talent in place to be good.
Doughty is not athletic enough to be an every day starter at safety or any other poistion in the NFL. I don't care how good his technique.

Don't sweat the technique. I just saw Laron fly by and crash into Canada. I haven't said this today so here goes. "I hate Dallas"