Smoot Lays The Smack Down (Redskins vs. 49ers) (Thread is Open)

Don't need prime-time. Scale back the offense to run first, keep Crompton's throws between 22-30 per game. Simplify the progressions (half field or quick reads), be more creative in the run/PA game, and see if JC2 can make some plays. Expand the playbook as he progresses.

On another note; I agree with the following in a big way
from Dirtbag's post: "...Redskins play to what they wish their strength was. Schemes are terrific, but they don’t win titles. Playmakers in good schemes win titles. Using guys to their strengths matters, too."

I can understand a philosophy of wanting folks to understand the system so when you get the franchise QB you can run KS's "system". But, you don't have....and may not get....that franchise QB. The pass happy system only works with exceptional talent at QB.

If you look at Houston 2010 & 2011, you have an offensive system that runs first, yet puts up great run & pass numbers. In 2010 (7th rush yds) and 2011 (1st rush yds) you have an improved YP(run)A from 2008 & 2009. Since KS left, Houston has improved in total points ranking (2008 17th, 2009 10th vs. 2010 9th, 2011 4th-Keep in mind 2011 has been without Johnson for a big chunk). Schaub isn't a Pro Bowl QB, there aren't Pro Bowlers all over Houston's offense. Foster while a very good player, is more a product of the system.

It's time for MS to take the reigns here and dictate a change in philosophy. A committment to the run game helps (protects) a subpar QB. Plus when bad weather sets in it hampers the passing game. Here are some numbers, I'm sure you'll quickly figure out what they are:
NYG 34 - 26 W
ARI 43-35 W
DAL 37 - 22 L
STL 29 - 40 W
PHI 37 - 14 L
CAR 37 - 23 L
BUF 33 - 11 L
SF 47 - 15 L

First number is pass attempts, second is run attempts. Pretty clear correlation to an imbalance and losses. I'm not saying we'd be 8 - 0 with a balanced attack, put we'd be putting more points up and not keeping our D in consisently bad position. If we get the franchise QB, then we can open it up and will be an even more explosive O.

The injuries have hurt the running game as much as beck has hurt the passing game.

rex could throw the ball past the line of scrimmage... just saying. beck's never won a game in the nfl, is past 30 and has been passed over by the ravens and the dolphins.

I have no idea why we brought him here or why anyone thought he'd be any good. this is what i expected, and i wish it was wrong, but i think it's time to fix it.

I was as hopeful as anyone that Beck would be at least a serviceable QB, if not an upgrade over Rex. But my take after watching yesterday's performance is that what happened to Rex is weighing on Beck as he's playing like a guy who is afraid to make a mistake and therefore takes no chances at all. After not having had an opportunity (except on one of the worst teams in NFL history in the 2007 Dolphins), Beck finally gets his chance, but only after Rex throws a bunch of terrible picks. So Beck figures if he can throw high percentage, short passes, avoid the INTs, they'll be able to generate enough offense to keep him in as the starter. So he doesn't look down the field, doesn't look for crossing routes, and tries to unload the ball as quickly as possible (which, given the drubbing by the Bills, is somewhat understandable).

But the problem is that no one is afraid that he can pick anyone apart. That the 49er safties were positioned for pass plays like they were run plays says a lot. No fear that the passing game is a real threat, and it surely isn't. The real elite QBs in this league walk onto the field thinking, "I am going to light you up." Beck walks onto the field thinking, "Please don't light me up." And it shows.

rex could throw the ball past the line of scrimmage... just saying. beck's never won a game in the nfl, is past 30 and has been passed over by the ravens and the dolphins.

I have no idea why we brought him here or why anyone thought he'd be any good. this is what i expected, and i wish it was wrong, but i think it's time to fix it.


Thats on MS bro

I was as hopeful as anyone that Beck would be at least a serviceable QB, if not an upgrade over Rex. But my take after watching yesterday's performance is that what happened to Rex is weighing on Beck as he's playing like a guy who is afraid to make a mistake and therefore takes no chances at all. After not having had an opportunity (except on one of the worst teams in NFL history in the 2007 Dolphins), Beck finally gets his chance, but only after Rex throws a bunch of terrible picks. So Beck figures if he can throw high percentage, short passes, avoid the INTs, they'll be able to generate enough offense to keep him in as the starter. So he doesn't look down the field, doesn't look for crossing routes, and tries to unload the ball as quickly as possible (which, given the drubbing by the Bills, is somewhat understandable).

But the problem is that no one is afraid that he can pick anyone apart. That the 49er safties were positioned for pass plays like they were run plays says a lot. No fear that the passing game is a real threat, and it surely isn't. The real elite QBs in this league walk onto the field thinking, "I am going to light you up." Beck walks onto the field thinking, "Please don't light me up." And it shows.

when beck throws deep he's off target but yards. his accuracy is awful on long balls.

Shanny said today that Hank would be starting in MIA. I'd imagine rest of the season.

Apparently he's been tearing it up in practice.

Apparently he's been tearing it up in practice.

I guess that means he's already well ahead of Thomas and Kelly.

This is how I feel about John Beck.

http://i41.tinypic.com/t0j7s5.jpg

Thats on MS bro

Yup. Also, I think as we look at the past 24 games, one could make a really solid argument that we should have kept Jason Campbell over the 3 qbs we've had starting since him. Not saying he was the franchise savior, but I think he certainly would have been a better 2 season band-aid than McNabb, Beck, or Grossman.

Yup. Also, I think as we look at the past 24 games, one could make a really solid argument that we should have kept Jason Campbell over the 3 qbs we've had starting since him. Not saying he was the franchise savior, but I think he certainly would have been a better 2 season band-aid than McNabb, Beck, or Grossman.

Oh hellyeah absolutely. I was never a Campbell hater while he was here, and he played more consistent for us than any of the 3 qb's who have played so far under Mike Shanahan. If we had kept him we'd have a potential 2nd round pick sitting on the roster right now.