Kornheiser believes Skins would make run at Moss

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FRPLG
01-18-2005, 08:51 AM
This was discussed about a week ago and I was in favor of getting him. I have changed my mind. Although I don't think he is nearly the problem that most people think he is I do think he brings far too much baggage to the table. He is villified by every sportscaster and we really don't need the distraction.

You really think with Fitz, Boldin, and 1-2 other 1st round WRs down in Arizona that they'll go after Moss? Hell, Marcel Shipp is a great back down there in Arizona. I'd be suprised if they gave up what's necessary for Moss.

I'd also be suprised not to see either Bennett, Smith, or both dealt for some defense.
You're crazy if you think Green wouldn't trade Bouldin and a DL for Moss. Bouldin wasn't drafted by Green I don't think. Now Fitz aint going no where but I think they'd trade for Moss in about half a second.

Also...have you seen Shipp??? First off he is somewhat injury prone and second off he definitly is not the answer. Shipp is not a feature back in this league while Bennett when healthy is a capable feature back.

Daseal
01-18-2005, 09:11 AM
FRPLG, what I'm saying is Arizona has other pressing needs than a WR. They have three very good WR's, in my opinion. Shipp was hurt this year, but I feel he is a capable back and could carry the load for Arizona by himself. Arizona needs line help, along with a little help on defense and they'll be a good team. It would suprise me if they're willing to pay/trade what they'd have to to get Moss.

celts32
01-18-2005, 09:20 AM
I vote no on Moss, but not becasue I think he is to big of a distraction to win with. I vote no becasue the Redskins have proven that big free agent splashes do not work for them. It's time to do it another way.

As for Moss, if he is such a cancer then why did the Vikings downfall start when he was out with an injury.

MTK
01-18-2005, 09:49 AM
There's no denying the impact he would have on the field, there's also no denying the impact he would have off it as well.

Whether it's the media's fault or not, Moss is a distraction. The fact that the Vikings are considering dealing away the most dangerous WR in the game is telling, and it's definitely not all financial reasons. They're tired of his antics and they're tired of the distractions.

From him walking off the field to mooning the crowd to making wise ass comments about his fine, he's always drawing attention away from the team. As much as the rest of the team tries to say the right things and cover up for him, you can't tell me behind the scenes his teammates aren't tired of him.

FRPLG
01-18-2005, 10:06 AM
We'll have to disagree on Shipp. Green will jump at a chance to bring in Moss. We're not talking about a slight upgrade here. Moss is far better than Bouldin and Fitz...that is saying a lot but it is true. Green will think he can control Moss and Moss gives Arz an immediate offense and could make McCown look like a real QB. If they have the bullets he is a Cardinal next year.

MTK
01-18-2005, 10:07 AM
Seems like the Cards are pretty set at WR and could use an upgrade at RB more than WR.

I've also heard the rumor that Green may try to obtain Bennett from the Vikes.

FRPLG
01-18-2005, 10:12 AM
I think if you ignore the antics and the potential issues he brings then a trade of Bouldin and a DL and maybe even like a 3rd rounder is could very well happen. They'll think it is worht it for the upgrade in skill he brings, the production he brings for other players and the respect he'll bring to the offense. I am not saying I think it would be a good trade but I think they would do it. They key is whether they can rationalize bringing him in by ignoring the issues he brings. The only guy in the league who could honestly ignore the issues is Green. He could rationalize away the issues all day. I'd say this is 60/40 for happening if I were betting.

No way I'd do it though.

ChounsMan
01-18-2005, 12:27 PM
I like Moss for talent & what his potential is, but I don't like Moss for his lack of maturity & his TO wanna-be b/s :cussing:

However, if Moss was available to trade for & the Skins would not have to give up Portis or Arrington I would consider trading for him.

I personally would not give up Arrington or portis for Moss because both players are superstars with great couchability & that's worth a hell of a lot more then Moss the retarded superstar freak WR that has the ability to make some of the greatest catches in football history, but his attitude is so bad that he'll be remember as a "what could have been" instead of the 2nd coming of Jerry Rice.

Final thought: I'd Pass on Mr. Moss

SkinsRock
01-18-2005, 02:23 PM
Contrary to many peoples thoughts, the biggest problem in the Skins, or any team for that matter, trading for Moss would not be his issues, but the huge amount it would cost, between players and/or draft picks, and money. Add his baggage that comes along with all that, and.....Thanks, but no thanks!!! Snyder circa 2000 would be all over it, but he has learned, plus as someone else said, Gibbs runs the show now. They would probably consider it, but once they factored everything in, I think they would decline.
For those that give the Riggins/Manley arguement: Riggins was a RB that got the ball 20+ times a game and basically the key to the offense, as opposed to a WR that will get it around 10 times a game, or less. And Manley's issues didn't come out until he was already with the team. I believe that Gibbs could handle Moss, but in my opinion, he will not think it's worth it. Better to just get Coles healthy and get a good, solid compliment for him to replace Gardner.
The media still tends to think of Snyder and the Redskins the way they were before when it comes to "big names" being available.....remember how everyone thought we would end up with Kearse this year, even if it meant overpaying? Well, his price went up too high, and we didn't.

Randy Moss should not and will not be a Redskin.

Daseal
01-18-2005, 02:28 PM
I assumed this argument saying if you want Moss on your team took all of the financial and trade variables out of the equation. I feel we'd have to give up too much to acquire him, and we couldn't stand it on the cap. However, if Snyder could work a trade for draft picks, and felt he could manage the cap with Moss, I'd take him in a second.

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