GTripp0012
12-02-2011, 12:01 PM
Not the same situation. DJax (at the end of last season) was worth a #1 WRs contract, Rogers (last year) wasn't worth the same contract as Nnamdi or Revis period.Age and potential aside, Jackson would have been far more overpaid as a $13 mil/year no. 1 receiver than Rogers would have been as a $9 mil/year no. 1 CB in the Revis/Nnamdi pay grade, even a year ago.
Jackson is really overrated as a receiver, but the ability to go vertical on NFL safeties is not a skill that you typically find beyond the first round. And that's Jackson's true value. He's a polished player who can break a game wide open. He is not a consistent down to down NFL receiver. He simply doesn't catch the ball well enough.
Devery Henderson is a better offensive player than DeSean Jackson, so I think that's a good example of how limited the Eagles offense was compared to other elite teams in the NFC. There are teams like the Packers and Saints for whom hed be coming off the bench. And then there are teams like the Rams and Redskins who he'd be the unquestioned top receiving target.
skinsfan69
12-02-2011, 12:11 PM
Thats my point. How would any of you guys feel if your boss brought in new people and paid the twice as much as what your making, promised you they would hook you up and don't? You'd be pissed also.
what jackson fails to realize is his pouting and acting like a baby w/out it's milk bottle isn't going to help him with other teams. and it's certainly not going to help with philly. he's only screwing himself. he'll eventually get a raise but he's not getting the money he thinks he's going to get.
sandtrapjack
12-02-2011, 12:26 PM
While I don't agree with his actions, up to a certain point DJax has a point. The guy single-handedly won that game against the Giants last season, and was their main weapon offensively. Now the team all of the sudden goes on this spending spree (Vick's new contract, Nnamdi, C. Jenkins, etc., etc.) and they don't give him a new contract? DJax I believe is still in his rookie contract, so once again he's being low balled by the Eagles.
Once again, not condoning his actions, but I see where he's coming from.
It's one thing to hold out for more money. It's quite another to report and show up.
If you hold out for more money, fine then hold out, don't report and don't play until you get your extension or your release. Heck seemed to work well for Vincent Jackson.
But if you are going to show up....then you damn well better show up. There are 52 other guys on that roster that are depending on you to do your part week in and week out.
I got two words for you Matt Forte.......in the same situation in Chicago as Jackson is in Philly, trying to get that deal but the difference is Forte is busting his a** out there and he is part of the solution. Jackson is part of the problem.
If this is the way he was gonna act, he shoulda just stayed home and continued the holdout. But if you're gonna report, you better come ready to play.
Ruhskins
12-02-2011, 12:33 PM
It's one thing to hold out for more money. It's quite another to report and show up.
If you hold out for more money, fine then hold out, don't report and don't play until you get your extension or your release. Heck seemed to work well for Vincent Jackson.
But if you are going to show up....then you damn well better show up. There are 52 other guys on that roster that are depending on you to do your part week in and week out.
I got two words for you Matt Forte.......in the same situation in Chicago as Jackson is in Philly, trying to get that deal but the difference is Forte is busting his a** out there and he is part of the solution. Jackson is part of the problem.
If this is the way he was gonna act, he shoulda just stayed home and continued the holdout. But if you're gonna report, you better come ready to play.
Once again, I don't condone his actions, but I see his point. In the end he's just hurting himself and no one is going to be on his side. Although he'd be getting just as much criticism as he is right now.
sportscurmudgeon
12-02-2011, 12:46 PM
You know what would suck? If the Eagles end with a worst record than the Redskins and can spoil our draft.
VERY possible...
sportscurmudgeon
12-02-2011, 12:47 PM
Right here. I thought, and still think, taking a chance on Young was better than taking a chance on Beck
Absolutely correct!
Did VY want to take a chance on us though?
Ruhskins
12-02-2011, 12:57 PM
Did VY want to take a chance on us though?
I don't see why not, given that he could have competed for the starter job. It sounds like maybe we didn't want to take a chance? Understandably given VY's character problems.
SFREDSKIN
12-02-2011, 01:10 PM
Not the same situation. DJax (at the end of last season) was worth a #1 WRs contract, Rogers (last year) wasn't worth the same contract as Nnamdi or Revis period.
Same shit, they both want to get paid. Carlos was pissed 3 years ago when fat **** and Hall were signed.
The Goat
12-02-2011, 01:23 PM
He can be pissed all he wants, pouting gets you nowhere and is always the wrong way to go about getting a new deal.
I wouldn't be surprised if they let him sign elsewhere. In fact they might be smart to do that.
Don't think we would give him a look anyway but I certainly hope not!!