Mel Kiper's Top 25 NFL prospects | Jan. 31

Yeah, I'm not sold on any of his analysis of any of those players either. In a perfect world, I'd love to see us pick up Williamson in the second round if at all possible, to at least take a chance on.
Looks like the is zero chance of him making it to the 2nd..

Here's the thing with Kiper. He does his board based on talent alone to begin with and ignores team need until it becomes more clear as April gets closer. Of course he incorporates draft history since if the most talented guy in draft is a guard there's just no way he is going in the top half of the first round. Kiper seems to be good at evaluating plain numbers and has a decent grasp of what it takes to be a quality ball player in the league but he misses so often on player character. I guess it is totally a crap shoot really in the end but honestly I'd trust just about any of the personell evaluators in the NFL before him.

here's the thing about Mel Kiper, Jr...there is no one else around that gets the attention he gets. this guy's whole life is watching videotape of prospects and evaluating them. his opinion is only worth what anyone takes from it. his job is like predicting the weather...not quite rocket science, but seriously unproven

his board has nothign to do where these players are going to get drafted. It has nothign to do with team needs, just pure overall talent. Mel Kiper could have a guy ranked 125th that could go first round if there are a ton of players picked from that position.

I still thikn that when you have a pick as high as we do, you take the best available, regardless of need. I think we should take Rolle, and play him with Taylor at safety. We could run any type of blitz package we wanted becuase both our safties can play corner back then. And both are freaks.

here's the thing about Mel Kiper, Jr...there is no one else around that gets the attention he gets. this guy's whole life is watching videotape of prospects and evaluating them. his opinion is only worth what anyone takes from it. his job is like predicting the weather...not quite rocket science, but seriously unproven

True but like you say all he does is study prospects, so he does know what he's talking about most of the time. Of course he's not going to be right all the time, there's too many intangibles that can't be graded or scored.

IMO, for most players its all about the system taht you go in and how you fit into it. So often players thrive or fail becuase of the team they play for. How good can Payton Manning make a receiver look? or the broncos blockign scheme? running behind the chiefs oline?

his board has nothign to do where these players are going to get drafted. It has nothign to do with team needs, just pure overall talent. Mel Kiper could have a guy ranked 125th that could go first round if there are a ton of players picked from that position.

I still thikn that when you have a pick as high as we do, you take the best available, regardless of need. I think we should take Rolle, and play him with Taylor at safety. We could run any type of blitz package we wanted becuase both our safties can play corner back then. And both are freaks.


SC, I see your coming around to my proposal of Rolle possibly being a better saftey than corner :thumb: not that he won't be a good corner but from seeing some of his game highlight's he look's like a saftey to me, a very dominant saftey. I just don't see us going after a corner in the first rd. I think the coaching staff is more than comfortable heading into this season with what we already have on the roster minus Smoot, scheme's can really help a player succeed and maybe look better than they really are, the Pat's are outstanding at that, and I think we have that kind of coach in William's he can get the most out of a player just give him a guy with speed and he will make a player out of him. I see us taking a reciever at 9 and I want that center who can man the middle, I believe the center position is the most crucial need to our offense next season.

What about the guy out of WVU - Pacman Jones? He has him ranked pretty high and I know nothing about him. Anyone seen him play?

What about the guy out of WVU - Pacman Jones? He has him ranked pretty high and I know nothing about him. Anyone seen him play?


I saw Pac-Man Jones play against UMD, and he looks like a good prospect. Good speed, has a knack for being around the ball, and he's a pretty good returner.

Adam "Pac-Man" Jones is grossly overrated. I distinctly remember watching UWV's final game and the in-game commentators saying something to the tune of "The coaching staff will sure be glad to see Jones leaving". Word out of Morristown is that he is a hot-head and has an incredbile & destructive ego. I think Kipper rated him this this high b/c of potential at both WR & KR/PR. But as Hubie Brown has shown us time & time again in the NBA draft, potential and "upside" don't always transfer onto the field.

I have a different scenerio that could work into our favor. The Ravens are currently sitting at the 22nd spot. They are in dire need of a play-making WR not named Taylor and I believe they will make a ploy for our 9th pick. In return we would receive their 22nd and their 2nd rounder. Leaving us w/ a 1st, (2) 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th.